hi stephan

you have always a possibility to fix this - 
you can buy transit in form of a paid peering with those 
networks who are customer-critical and be badly peered
on your existing upstreams. (be careful: no full transit - 
just peering only - with full transit you import a lot of
this problems in your network)

political it´s a bad solution because you support carrier
who don't care about good quality and needed peerings
in your region. the better version would be to kick out such
carriers from the market...
but it will improve your own network, so that you can beat
all other guys who still stuck in problems with those other carriers.

bernd


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stephan Wolf [mailto:[email protected]] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. Februar 2013 23:26
An: Bernd SPIESS; swinog
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

Hi Bernd,

uh, I started a big discussion here ;)


2013/2/5 Bernd SPIESS <[email protected]>:
> hi stephan
> this is the reason why it is important to really really pick carefully 
> your ip-access or ip-transit provider. ip is not a matter of 
> price/mbit as you can see here

from that point you are completely right.

we as service providers can choose.
also I did.
I have multiple ISP's @home (yess...),
and also in all datacenters.

bu see customer side:
- they can choose, too
- but they don't care
- they choose by price
- or because basis link is already there


effectively:
- imagine you offer a partners service in sitzerland
- and the access is slow for customers
- effectively cablecom customers
- reason is cablecom ('s peering policy) - but they don't care

so effectively technical this is not my problem here.
it is a problem from customers chosen ISP

but again:
tell this (just a guess) 1.5 milllion cablecom internet customers

no chance ;)

the only solution:
- most cablecom customers must be unhappy and cancel contract
- then they may change peering policy

but effectively they will cancel "the other side".
because they don't care.

cheers,
stephan

ps: got no feedback by upc at all


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