In message <20180523202228.gc58...@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks Davis wr ites: > > > --QRj9sO5tAVLaXnSD > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 02:53:16AM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > > 24.05.2018 2:30, Cy Schubert wrote: > >=20 > > > Except for old computers and old software that segfaults on 64-bit, how= > many people still use i386? > > >=20 > > > Full disclosure: I'd like to see i386 deorbited before I retire. > >=20 > > Plese don't. I routinely use FreeBSD11/i386 for cheap VPS hosts having le= > ss than 2G memory > > because amd64 has noticeable overhead. I even have ZFS-only i386 VPS, her= > e is live example with 1G only: > >=20 > > Mem: 10M Active, 69M Inact, 230M Wired, 685M Free > > ARC: 75M Total, 1953K MFU, 31M MRU, 172K Anon, 592K Header, 42M Other > > 3500K Compressed, 29M Uncompressed, 8.61:1 Ratio > > Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free > >=20 > > The VPS has only 20G of disk space and ZFS compression gives > > compressratio 2.22x for ports, 2.51x for src, 2.29x for obj > > and 1.95x for installed i386 system plus other software and data. > > I think we're quite a ways from being ready to axe i386. > > For VPS applications, we should probably get x32 support in place which > should give us the best of both worlds. > > That said, we either need to rev the i386 ABI to use a 64-bit time_t or > kill it in the not to distant future or we risk embedded systems failing > in place in 2038. If we assume a 15 year life for most equipment to > fail electrically or mechanically that says FreeBSD 13 shouldn't support > the current i386 ABI.
Rereading this, I'm confused. FreeBSD 13? 2023? Either works for me, though 2023 is more reasonable and gives people more than enough time to migrate. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert <cy.schub...@cschubert.com> FreeBSD UNIX: <c...@freebsd.org> Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. _______________________________________________ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
