On Jul 12, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Ian Lepore <i...@freebsd.org> wrote:

> It is in no way established that any kind of "mess" exists.  All we have
> is some people who appear to hate C++ expressing their opinions about
> how they hate C++.  All the whining about how many more bytes the
> compiled code is or many milliseconds something takes to compile don't
> add up to any actual problem.

Some people have good reason to care about the size
of the compiled code.  (Witness Adrian's complaints
a couple days ago about disk and memory usage
for libreadline.)

Tim

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