On 0125T1813, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 06:02:58AM +0000, Edward Napierala wrote: > > The aliases are gone, let's continue on the remaining bits below. > > They are not gone, they were commented out; also, bogus double linefeeds > are not gone.
Yeah, I've matched the existing comment style in that file. > But most importantly, this whole file is useless and IMHO > should just be removed. /bin/sh is not supposed to be one's interactive > shell. Of course it is an interactive shell. We've been using it as the default interactive shell for non-root accounts since... ages. > > It is alien, because it's different from their experience > > from other systems they are used to. > > This argument does not really hold because /bin/sh is not... see above. > > > It doesn't affect existing installs. It doesn't affect people > > who run the default root shell (tcsh), nor folks who use shells > > AFAICT default root shell is /bin/csh, not tcsh. ;-) But that also Our csh _is_ tcsh. > means that /usr/src/bin/sh/dot.shrc doesn't have to exist: those who > change the root shell should either pick another interactive shell, > or if they want /bin/sh be ready to deal with sanitary environment. See above. > > And for folks who do have their own tree with their preferred > > /root/.shrc to "make distribution" from, it should actually make > > their diff to upstream smaller. > > I don't like extra files, esp. configuration files that look like they > are for interactive shell while our /bin/sh is in fact not. This is > confusing, and FreeBSD is not supposed to be confusing. Again, sh(1) is an interactive shell. > > It is a syntax problem: > > > > trasz@v2:~ % while :; do date; sleep 1; done > > while: Expression Syntax. > > do: Command not found. > > done: Command not found. > > Are you trying to use sh(1) loop in (t)csh? Why? And what does it have > to do with the /usr/src/bin/sh/dot.shrc issue? I'm trying to explain the basic problem with our default shell: it doesn't work, because it can't handle what people call the shell syntax. _______________________________________________ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
