On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:34 AM Rodney W. Grimes
<free...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM Rodney W. Grimes
> > <free...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:23 AM Rodney W. Grimes
> > > > <free...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Author: kevans
> > > > > > Date: Tue May 19 02:41:05 2020
> > > > > > New Revision: 361238
> > > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/361238
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Log:
> > > > > >   zfs: reject read(2) of a dirfd with EISDIR
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   This is independent of the recently-discussed global change, 
> > > > > > which is still
> > > > > >   in review/discussion stage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   This is effectively a measure for consistency in the ZFS world, 
> > > > > > where
> > > > > >   FreeBSD was the only platform (as far as I could find) that 
> > > > > > allowed this.
> > > > > >   What ZFS exposes is decidedly not useful for any real purposes, to
> > > > > >   paraphrase (hopefully faithfully) jhb's findings when exploring 
> > > > > > this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   The size of a directory in ZFS is the number of directory entries 
> > > > > > within.
> > > > > >   When reading a directory, you would instead get the leading part 
> > > > > > of its raw
> > > > > >   contents; the amount you get being dictated by the "size," i.e. 
> > > > > > number of
> > > > > >   directory entries. There's decidedly (luckily) no stack 
> > > > > > disclosure happening
> > > > > >   here, though the behavior is bizarre and almost certainly a 
> > > > > > historical
> > > > > >   accident.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   This change has already been upstreamed to OpenZFS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Until the grep -d skip issue is addressed I object to this change as
> > > > > it is going to cause people who do grep with wildcards to see lots
> > > > > of errors that before where pretty much either silent (no match 
> > > > > occured)
> > > > > or spit out a "binary file foo matches."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That seems preferable to grepping random bytes that don't particularly
> > > > contain any strings? They'd never see "binary file foo matches" in
> > > > this case.
> > >
> > > The difference is you rarely get a hit, and now your gauranteed to
> > > get a hit on every single directory making grep * very noisy, where
> > > it was often silent or nearly silent before.
> > >
> >
> > As you noted in the review for the larger change, -d skip is a good
> > option for the people that don't like this. It probably makes sense as
> > a default, but then we'd be diverging from the other popular grep that
> > defaults to -d read and spews out EISDIR more often than not.
>
> Yet another thing I hate about Linux, thank you for adding it to FreeBSD :-)
>
> > > >
> > > > This isn't exactly divergent from the behavior they'd see with ZFS
> > > > anywhere else.
> > >
> > > It is extremly divergent from 42 years of behavior.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think ZFS has been implemented on FreeBSD for 42 years, and I
> > don't find this grep argument compelling enough to restore peoples'
> > ability to read the raw znode of a directory.
>
> The EISDIR behavior is what your changing, independent of file system(s)
> you have done so far.  The fact the behavior is now different between
> UFS and ZFS is sic, IMHO.

EISDIR in read(2) denotes that a filesystem does not support reading a
directory, this isn't a new kind of error. In particular, ZFS
traditionally does NOT support reading a directory like this. The
behavior between UFS and ZFS should have always been different, this
is correction of a historical *accident*.
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