> On Apr 14, 2017, at 13:43, Larry Rosenman <l...@lerctr.org> wrote:
> 
> On 4/14/17, 3:39 PM, "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" 
> <owner-svn-src-...@freebsd.org on behalf of yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 13:37, Larry Rosenman <l...@lerctr.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On 4/14/17, 3:33 PM, "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurab...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 13:26, Larry Rosenman <l...@lerctr.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4/14/17, 3:19 PM, "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" 
>>> <owner-svn-src-...@freebsd.org on behalf of yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 13:14, Slawa Olhovchenkov <s...@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 01:49:51PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Ngie Cooper <n...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Author: ngie
>>>>>> Date: Fri Apr 14 19:41:48 2017
>>>>>> New Revision: 316938
>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/316938
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> savecore: fix space calculation with respect to `minfree` in 
>>>>>> check_space(..)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Use strtoll(3) instead of atoi(3), because atoi(3) limits the
>>>>>> representable data to INT_MAX. Check the values received from
>>>>>> strtoll(3), trimming trailing whitespace off the end to maintain
>>>>>> POLA.
>>>>>> - Use `KiB` instead of `kB` when describing free space, total space,
>>>>>> etc. I am now fully aware of `KiB` being the IEC standard for 1024
>>>>>> bytes and `kB` being the IEC standard for 1000 bytes.
>>>>>> - Store available number of KiB in `available` so it can be more
>>>>>> easily queried and compared to ensure that there are enough KiB to
>>>>>> store the dump image on disk.
>>>>>> - Print out the reserved space on disk, per `minfree`, so end-users
>>>>>> can troubleshoot why check_space(..) is reporting that there isn't
>>>>>> enough free space.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MFC after:    7 weeks
>>>>>> Reviewed by:  Anton Rang <r...@acm.com> (earlier diff), cem (earlier 
>>>>>> diff)
>>>>>> Tested with:  positive/negative cases (see review); make tinderbox
>>>>>> Sponsored by: Dell EMC Isilon
>>>>>> Differential Revision:        D10379
>>>>> 
>>>>> The free space calculation is still uselessly conservative, because it
>>>>> doesn't account for the fact that core dumps will always be either
>>>>> spare or compressed.  The result is that savecore will frequently
>>>>> refuse to save corefiles even when there's plenty of space.  I
>>>>> proposed removing the space check altogether in
>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D2587.  However, I agreed to wait until
>>>>> after the compressed core dump feature was merged, because then mostly
>>>>> accurate space checks will be possible.  AFAIK the compressed core
>>>>> dump feature still hasn't been finished.
>>>> 
>>>> Is posible (in the future) to use multiple swaps (on multiple disks)
>>>> for save core dumps?
>>> 
>>>  Multiple swap devices is already handled by savecore(8), if one uses 
>>> fstab(5) or dumpon(8). Otherwise, you must invoke savecore(8) on individual 
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>>  As far as saving to multiple disks is concerned, I would hope that one is 
>>> using a redundancy capable filesystem (zfs) or RAID-like technology 
>>> (gmirror, graid, LSI Fusion’s RAID product line) to stripe and/or mirror 
>>> the data across multiple disks.
>> 
>>   …
>> 
>>> How do I use multiple devices to have the system dump on all of my swap?  I 
>>> got a message about not enough space, but there (I think) was enough 
>>> between multiple drives….
>> 
>>   Something like:
>> 
>>   - Create a zpool
>>   - Mount zpool to /crashdumps
>>   - Change dumpdir in /etc/rc.conf to be /crashdumps, e.g., echo 
>> ‘dumpdir=/crashdumps’
>> 
>>   ?
>>   HTH,
>>   -Ngie
>> 
>>   PS The issue with lack of space might be the issue that Alan brought up 
>> earlier with compressed dumps and overly conservative free space checks, or 
>> it might be the fact that dumpdir (default: /var/crash) is full.
>> 
>> 
>> I was talking about the actual crashdump to swap by the system.  /var/crash 
>> has 10T of space (my root pool).
> 
>    If your memory is bigger than your swap, you’re unfortunately not able to 
> save the mini dump if the size of the saved pages exceed the space on swap. I 
> think this is where markj’s compressed dumps feature will come in handy.
>    Thanks!
>    -Ngie
> 
> 
> Yeah, I have the following:
> borg.lerctr.org /home/ler $ swapctl -l
> Device:       1024-blocks     Used:
> /dev/mfid0p3    8388608         0
> /dev/mfid1p3    8388608         0
> /dev/mfid2p3    8388608         0
> /dev/mfid3p3    8388608         0
> /dev/mfid4p3    8388608         0
> /dev/mfid5p3    8388608         0
> borg.lerctr.org /home/ler $ sysctl hw.physmem
> hw.physmem: 137368682496
> borg.lerctr.org /home/ler $
> 
> SO 6 8G partitions (48G), but the dump is larger than 8G.

Yup, that’s not going to work. Since you’re using mfi(4), I’d try creating 
another 48GB large RAID-0 volume to help deal with that issue.
Cheers,
-Ngie

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