On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Garrett Cooper <yanef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, M. Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>> In message: <20090125235322.gb25...@dragon.nuxi.org>
>>            "David O'Brien" <obr...@freebsd.org> writes:
>> : On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 07:12:38PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>> : > I'm
>> : > glad JUNOS can build inside its own VM.  Kudos.  But given that the
>> : > world is much more than a tightly controlled development environment
>> : > at a well funded company, I think that we need to be more
>> : > accommodating.  Especially for the embedded world.
>> :
>> : A minor correctly - JUNOS builds on STOCK FreeBSD running in a VM.
>> : JUNOS does not host its own build.
>> :
>> : How is building FreeBSD under stock FreeBSD affected by how well
>> : funded an entity is?
>>
>> Setting up and managing dozens of VMs for engineers without privs can
>> be problematic.  We use an emulation environment at work and the vm
>> images are constantly getting corrupted.
>>
>> Warner
>
>    But that's because it's QEMU -- QEMU is crap compared to VMware
> for x86 emulation still... QEMU/ppc is even worse, but it's the only
> ppc emulator that's freely available out there.
> -Garrett

I take that back. There's PearPC and GXemul, but I'm pretty sure
they're not as good as the prep port of QEMU.
-Garrett
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