should have said "quad will always be better than stereo" for installations
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:48, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > yeah - I read the binaural to Bformat section. But the problem is with > what they describe there that I don't think it would be any different from > converting a normal stereo signal to b format - in fact it could even be a > little bit worse. Its nothing to do with Kemar heads - just the fact if you > have a piece of software like Dearvr you can pan a sound in a circle and > output it as Binaural or FOA or whatever. The problem you'll have with > panning binaural on to speaker like they described panned left and right > etc is you will get the binaural cues for the left ear hitting both ears > and the binaural cues that are just for the right ear hitting both ears > thus rendering any "binaural" cues in the recording ineffective - even > worse with quad - thats why crosstalk cancellation is built in to > transaural systems - but Ive not hear dthat work very well either. > I think you're best bet would be to convert binaural to normal stereo and > do that for two pairs - quad will always be better than binaural for an > installation or just build up a quad soundscape from scratch .And yes I did > try what you are describing years ago . > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:39, Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net> wrote: > >> Humans heads may be different from the mythic KEMAR dummy head, but for >> my use case I don't think it matters... >> >> I don't expect this "conversion" to be precise, or as a mean to archive >> binaural recordings using ambisonics; my intention is simply to use >> binaural recordings for an art installation with small speakers close to >> the user; I suspect it would feel better with a quad setup than a stereo >> setup, because the user would move (turning its head and/body). >> >> See the "Binaural to B-Format" section of >> https://www.ambisonic.net/quaduhj.html, then the Pan-Rotate section of >> "http://www.ambisonic.net/ambimix.html";; How to do something similar >> with software methods? >> >> I'll try a few things, but maybe someone in the large Sursound community >> did something similar? >> >> (All we see now on this mailing list are academic/commercial >> announcements, so please excuse my naïve question...) >> >> Marc >> >> Le 21-03-04 à 09 h 21, Augustine Leudar a écrit : >> > There might be something that uses crosstalk cancellation that might >> work >> > for a normal two speaker (transaural) approach? Although I can't see >> how it >> > would work for quad though - or why youd need to use ambisonics fo it. I >> > know Spat has a binaural transaural converter - which can also convert >> to >> > quad - but I dont know if you can use your own recordings - I think it's >> > just for stuff panned in the software.... >> > >> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:15, Augustine Leudar < >> augustineleu...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> I'm, not sure there would be Marc - I can see how it easy enough to >> >> convert in software ambisonics to binaural by convolving with HRTFs and >> >> potentially the other way round too if you used the same software that >> was >> >> convolving HRTFS to output Ambisonics (or even plain old quad) but a >> >> recording with your own personal HRTFs on it ? I cant see how - unless >> >> theres some super software that has your personal HRTF , can get that >> data >> >> from the recording (which sounds very difficult) and convert to >> >> ambisonics/whatever - would love to be wrong though! >> >> >> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 13:55, Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I have a "back to the basics" question. >> >>> >> >>> For a simple project I planned to record in FOA or HOA, but the final >> >>> render would be in simple quad (horizontal). So I don't need a lot of >> >>> resolution. I enjoy recording with binaural microphones (the kind that >> >>> looks like cheap earbuds), so I can record continuously without being >> >>> noticed. >> >>> >> >>> So I wondered; is there a method to "convert" binaural to >> >>> horizontal-only FOA? Apparently there is: >> >>> >> >>> https://www.ambisonic.net/quaduhj.html >> >>> >> >>> http://www.ambisonic.net/ambimix.html >> >>> >> >>> I guess my question is: what would be the software equivalent of a >> >>> pan-rotate device? >> >>> >> >>> Marc >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Sursound mailing list >> >>> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe >> here, >> >>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com >> >> Business website: www.magikdoor.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > > -- > Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com > Business website: www.magikdoor.net > > > -- Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com Business website: www.magikdoor.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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