should have said "quad will always be better than stereo" for installations

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:48, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> yeah - I read the binaural to Bformat section. But the problem is with
> what they describe there that I don't think it would be any different from
> converting a normal stereo signal to b format - in fact it could even be a
> little bit worse. Its nothing to do with Kemar heads - just the fact if you
> have a piece of software like Dearvr you can pan a sound in a circle and
> output it as Binaural or FOA or whatever. The problem you'll have with
> panning binaural on to speaker like they described panned left and right
> etc is you will get the binaural cues for the left ear hitting both ears
> and the binaural cues that are just for the right ear hitting both ears
> thus rendering any "binaural" cues in the recording ineffective - even
> worse with quad - thats why crosstalk cancellation is built in to
> transaural systems - but Ive not hear dthat work very well either.
> I think you're best bet would be to convert binaural to normal stereo and
> do that for two pairs - quad will always be better than binaural for an
> installation or just build up a quad soundscape from scratch .And yes I did
> try what you are describing years ago .
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:39, Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net> wrote:
>
>> Humans heads may be different from the mythic KEMAR dummy head, but for
>> my use case I don't think it matters...
>>
>> I don't expect this "conversion" to be precise, or as a mean to archive
>> binaural recordings using ambisonics; my intention is simply to use
>> binaural recordings for an art installation with small speakers close to
>> the user; I suspect it would feel better with a quad setup than a stereo
>> setup, because the user would move (turning its head and/body).
>>
>> See the "Binaural to B-Format" section of
>> https://www.ambisonic.net/quaduhj.html, then the Pan-Rotate section of
>> "http://www.ambisonic.net/ambimix.html";; How to do something similar
>> with software methods?
>>
>> I'll try a few things, but maybe someone in the large Sursound community
>> did something similar?
>>
>> (All we see now on this mailing list are academic/commercial
>> announcements, so please excuse my naïve question...)
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> Le 21-03-04 à 09 h 21, Augustine Leudar a écrit :
>> > There might be something that uses crosstalk cancellation that might
>> work
>> > for a normal two speaker (transaural) approach? Although I can't see
>> how it
>> > would work for quad though - or why youd need to use ambisonics fo it. I
>> > know Spat has a binaural transaural converter - which can also convert
>> to
>> > quad - but I dont know if you can use your own recordings - I think it's
>> > just for stuff panned in the software....
>> >
>> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:15, Augustine Leudar <
>> augustineleu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm, not sure there would be Marc - I can see how it easy enough to
>> >> convert in software ambisonics to binaural by convolving with HRTFs and
>> >> potentially the other way round too if you used the same software that
>> was
>> >> convolving HRTFS to output Ambisonics (or even plain old quad) but a
>> >> recording with your own personal HRTFs on it ? I cant see how  - unless
>> >> theres some super software that has your personal HRTF , can get that
>> data
>> >> from the recording (which sounds very difficult) and convert to
>> >> ambisonics/whatever - would love to be wrong though!
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 13:55, Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have a "back to the basics" question.
>> >>>
>> >>> For a simple project I planned to record in FOA or HOA, but the final
>> >>> render would be in simple quad (horizontal). So I don't need a lot of
>> >>> resolution. I enjoy recording with binaural microphones (the kind that
>> >>> looks like cheap earbuds), so I can record continuously without being
>> >>> noticed.
>> >>>
>> >>> So I wondered; is there a method to "convert" binaural to
>> >>> horizontal-only FOA? Apparently there is:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.ambisonic.net/quaduhj.html
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.ambisonic.net/ambimix.html
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess my question is: what would be the software equivalent of a
>> >>> pan-rotate device?
>> >>>
>> >>> Marc
>> >>>
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