Thank you. Much appreciated.

- martin


On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 22:36, Fons Adriaensen <f...@linuxaudio.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 09:59:45PM +0000, Martin Dupras wrote:
>
> > However, no one has answered my question. I will ask again.
> >
> > Can someone point me to any published resources that explain the
> principles
> > and theoretical equations required to in theory convert from 2nd order
> > A-format to B-format? I can find resources for 1st order but not for 2nd
> > order.
>
> First, there is no such thing as a standard 2nd order A-format. All
> higher order AMB mics I know of use different capsule geometries.
> Also some are on a solid sphere, some are open, and that changes
> things as well.
>
> Secondly, for second and higher order things become much more
> complex. One of the reasons for this is that normal capsules
> don't have much 2nd or higher order components in their polar
> pattern. Whatever there is are imperfections or the result of
> diffraction on the mic body. That means you can only obtain
> the higher order components by exploiting the finite distance
> between the capsules and any diffraction, and things become
> very frequency dependent as a result of this.
>
> Basically this a system inversion problem, basic matrix maths.
>
> The theoretical polar patterns of the mics, or IR measurements
> in a number of directions, define a matrix. Inverting this matrix
> and then multiplying the result with another one defining the
> B-format polar patterns, you obtain the A/B conversion matrix.
>
> This sound simple, but in practice it isn't. The inversion will
> be frequency dependent and ill-conditioned at lower frequencies.
> The theoretically 'perfect' result won't be usable, it may require
> extreme gains and amplify noise and small errors in the original
> data out of proportion.
>
> You need to deal with this in a practical way. This is were
> the 'secret sauce' is, it is a careful balancing act between
> conflicting requirements. There are some mathematical tricks
> to help with this but that would lead us very far. The simple
> ones (presented in some papers) don't work well in practice.
>
> The basic theory you'll find in several papers on higher order
> Ambisonic theory. Warning: this becomes very mathematical, and
> there is no other way.
>
> Ciao,
>
> --
> FA
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