Hello Franz,

I don’t want to come over as being too negative about new and progressive projects, but “still” have some problems with “5th order recordings”.

Many practical HOA decoders in the wild  are currently restricted to 3rd order. 4th order is seen as Master Format for VR. (Guidelines of VR Industry Forum.)

Would we really need 5th order if the decoders would be a bit more optimized, by the way? 

Nothing personal again, but I think you are using rE decoders. This might be acceptable in the loudspeaker case and using HOA, but applying headphones and binaural decoders I still would recommend dual-band decoders. Because you aredefinitively in the sweet spot...

(And maybe also NFC, as Aaron Heller might insist.)

Of course you could use the 5th order mix as master format, and less in practice. (The only problem I have with this approach is that even the eigenmike can’t record 5th order. Of course you can still mix your HOA main microphone and spot mikes.)

So maybe all things are just fine, and why not being forward-looking... (How many 5th order capable playback systems do we have? I mean: on this planet? I would be surprised if we should “count” more than 100 installations for 22.2, as well... Which probably is used as master format, accordingly.)

I am in a tough place here, because many people will now show up and < insist > that FOA recordings would be just fine. “Perfect spatial sound forever”, so to speak.

(Running away to get some bite, as our British colleagues say...)

Best regards

Stefan

P.S.: 7th order recordings/mixes would have been even better!        😎

P.S. 2: Being more constructive:

Maybe using COMPASS could help to achieve some true 5th order result. (As long as you can reproduce this...)

Further work (for next year): 7th order?!   (Losing patience...)

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Citando Franz Zotter <zot...@iem.at>:

Dear colleagues & friends,

We are happy to announce that the 5th Int. Conference on Spatial Audio will host Europe’s Third Student 3D Audio Production Competition, Sept. 26th to 28th 2019 in Ilmenau, Germany, https://vdt-icsa.de/en/2019/ .

Call: Students who are interested in 3D-spatialized sound and work on spatial music, spatial audio productions or recordings are invited to participate by submitting short works (4min/11min) to the third Student 3D Audio Production Competition.

There are three submission categories:

(1) contemporary / computer music (11min)

(2) audio drama / documentary / soundscapes (4min)

(3) music recording / studio production (4min);

For the first time, category (1) permits more common

contemporary/academic composition formats of eleven minutes.

The format requirements for preparing a submission and tools to check are given here https://iaem.at/ambisonics/s3dapc/2019 and of course you can get in touch if there are questions: <s3d...@iem.at>

The submission portal

https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=s3dapc2019

is open until the end of June 2019.

An international jury will assess the submissions concerning the creative and technical quality, providing feedback to all the participants of the competition. Based on the resulting ranking, the finalists will be selected for presentation at 5th ICSA. The finalists will be notified and requested to attend the finals at ICSA in Ilmenau in order to receive their award, the jury’s comments, and say a few words about their submissions.

The finalists' work will be presented during the finals and awards celebration, played back with powerful hemispherical loudspeaker setup with about 30 loudspeakers.

Best regards,

Franz Zotter

Matthias Frank

Daniel Rudrich

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