Enda - ask Bruce - I've had this same conversation with him. I have to admit, 
as a cheap and cheerful quick fix, I often simply use the 1st order components 
(for example, if I'm too lazy to put in multiple decoders, I use a 3rd order 
decoder, and simply pipe in the 1st order to the first 4 inputs.) and it works 
not too bad. But I'm aware that it's a bodge job, and certainly not appropriate 
for precision work

cheers


Dr. Peter Lennox
Senior Fellow of the Higher Education Academy
Senior Lecturer in Perception
College of Arts
University of Derby

Tel: 01332 593155
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From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of James Anthony Enda 
Bates <bate...@tcd.ie>
Sent: 07 February 2017 19:54:42
To: sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: [Sursound] Going from 3rd order to 1st order.

Hi everyone,
  so it seems to be very common practice now to convert from 3rd order to
1st order by simply using the first 4 channels of the 3rd order stream.
However, I have this very vague recollection of that not being quite right
and that there are some differences between the WXYZ channels in different
orders? But I cant seem to pinpoint the reference or source for that, so
perhaps my memory is just wrong?
Any one have any ideas on this? Could this be an issue with Furse-Malham,
rather than Ambi-X, or am I just completely wrong about that?

It's quite a relevant question as you often need to prepare both 1st and
3rd order mixes these days for 360 videos.
Thanks all,
enda




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Music & Media Technologies / School of Engineering
Stack B, IFSC, Dublin 1, Ireland.

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