I've been using the Facebook Spatial Workstation (formerly Spatial Audio
Workstation) from tbe, and to answer a few questions, it's focused on
mainly producing spatial audio for 360 videos. I've done sound design / mix
for several projects for MilkVR and custom apps with it and I can say it's
best in class in terms of ease of use out there right now. As primarily a
Pro Tools user, doing an ambisonic mix in Reaper using ambisonic toolkit,
and the TOA plugins was a far more annoying workflow and basically, aside
from a few quirks, this stuff just works.

The team at twobigears has been great support wise, and are quick to get
back to me with help / advice and I think this is a great move for them,
since my only qualm with the software before was the pricing model, which
was a per project fee, so going free, it's a LOT easier to convince my
clients to go for the fully spatialized mix in their 360 videos.



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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:51:55 +0100
> From: Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
> Subject: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation
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> Apparently Facebook is now getting in on ambisonic audio!
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> https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/
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> I?m just downloading now.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Steve
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:03:46 +0100
> From: "Richard" <zoanne...@yahoo.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation
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> Limited as there?s no Windows support yet
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>
>
> Apparently Facebook is now getting in on ambisonic audio!
>
> https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/
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> I?m just downloading now.
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> Any thoughts?
>
> Steve
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:40:19 +0100
> From: Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com>
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> No sure - I dont have a mac handy so its hard to tell. I notice that it
> gives little hardware info under that section. How many speakers are
> required ? Or is it headphones ?
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 11:51, Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Apparently Facebook is now getting in on ambisonic audio!
> >
> > https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/
> >
> > I?m just downloading now.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
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> > Steve
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:28:04 +0200
> From: Wim <object...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation
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> Hi,
>
> I suspect it is squarely aimed at the Oculus Rift, also acquired by
> Facebook, as it loads the HRTF from the VR viewer. That also means it's
> probably more suited for gaming imho.
>
> From what I've seen in the docs, it's a fairly complete toolkit. The
> software developer's toolkit is not included and I haven't searched for it
> yet. A Windows version will follow.
>
> Included are two VST2/VST3/AAX plugins, a VR video viewer and  an encoder.
> Also, there are setup templates for Nuendo, Reaper and ProTools, which is
> nice to get you started.
>
> It supports B-format as input.
>
> As there is also a new release for the ATK for Reaper, I won't be playing
> with this one yet, as my interest goes more to the approach from Trond,
> which is far more open.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wim
>
> 2016-05-24 13:40 GMT+02:00 Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com>:
>
> > No sure - I dont have a mac handy so its hard to tell. I notice that it
> > gives little hardware info under that section. How many speakers are
> > required ? Or is it headphones ?
> >
> > On 24 May 2016 at 11:51, Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Apparently Facebook is now getting in on ambisonic audio!
> > >
> > > https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/
> > >
> > > I?m just downloading now.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Steve
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:43:52 +0100
> From: Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation
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> Just installed, and viewed, but haven?t listened yet. Plugins are VST,
> VST3 and Protools.
> They are the ?Two Big Ears? plugins.
> It is for an 8 channel export so not quite second order, but yes the only
> decode is binaural. Although there is the ability to turn this off. Not
> sure if the output isn?t a propriety though so not sure if other decodes
> are possible?
> The Spatialiser Plugin allows input from mono to 7 channel and also FuMa
> and AmbiX B-Format. Although the VST3 plug doesn?t seem to, and crashes
> Reaper. It also has distance and doppler simulation, and a room button,
> which allows the track to take on the room character from the control plug.
> I think this real time HRTF room modelling as opposed to anechoic.
> The master control plugin syncs up to video and can take its focus and
> tracking from that. It also has a room simulator that allows each
> spatialiser track to be placed within. This also implies a proprietary
> audio stream as how else would this be possible?
>
> Will feed back when listened properly.
>
> Looks like Ambisomics is well and truly here folks!!!
>
> best
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> On 24 May 2016, at 12:40, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > No sure - I dont have a mac handy so its hard to tell. I notice that it
> > gives little hardware info under that section. How many speakers are
> > required ? Or is it headphones ?
> >
> > On 24 May 2016 at 11:51, Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Apparently Facebook is now getting in on ambisonic audio!
> >>
> >> https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/
> >>
> >> I?m just downloading now.
> >>
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:27:24 +0200
> From: J?rn Nettingsmeier <netti...@stackingdwarves.net>
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> On 05/24/2016 01:03 PM, Richard wrote:
> > Limited as there?s no Windows support yet
>
>
> How is that a limit?
>
> /me ducks and covers...
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:30:05 +0100
> From: Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com>
> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation
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> Jesus Christ Jorn.
> /Lobs grenade.
> (;
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 14:27, J?rn Nettingsmeier <netti...@stackingdwarves.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On 05/24/2016 01:03 PM, Richard wrote:
> >
> >> Limited as there?s no Windows support yet
> >>
> >
> >
> > How is that a limit?
> >
> > /me ducks and covers...
> >
> >
> > --
> > J?rn Nettingsmeier
> > Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487
> >
> > Meister f?r Veranstaltungstechnik (B?hne/Studio)
> > Tonmeister VDT
> >
> > http://stackingdwarves.net
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:59:51 -0000 (GMT)
> From: "Michael Chapman" <s...@mchapman.com>
> To: "Surround Sound discussion group" <sursound@music.vt.edu>
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> Aint Wndowxs un peu oass? !
>
> Have 'ad window's on 'inux for (?deacades).
>
> Which cud explain why 'indpWs-pass?(TM) is not 'indows(R) .... ????
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jesus Christ Jorn.
> > /Lobs grenade.
> > (;
> >
> > On 24 May 2016 at 14:27, J?rn Nettingsmeier
> > <netti...@stackingdwarves.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/24/2016 01:03 PM, Richard wrote:
> >>
> >>> Limited as there?s no Windows support yet
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> How is that a limit?
> >>
> >> /me ducks and covers...
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> J?rn Nettingsmeier
> >> Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487
> >>
> >> Meister f?r Veranstaltungstechnik (B?hne/Studio)
> >> Tonmeister VDT
> >>
> >> http://stackingdwarves.net
> >>
> >>
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