Woe, woe, this is a veritable can of worms (dialogue in the center)... The film guys have good reasons for that, and a cheap escape is certainly not the reason. When you strictly follow the placement of a person on the screen with the audio, the picture editing is very much enforced and underlined, and with rapid cuts the audio jumps around like a rubber ball. So this philosophy is totally dependent on the cooperation of the director to shoot and edit in a way so that following the audio panorama according to the picture is not cheesy. And: very often there is ambience on top of the voices, so that makes things more believable. I have tried following the picture placement once in a theater play post-production. After 3 minutes I reverted to the center channel, because it sounded so "artificial". Sounds weird, yes, but if picture editing does not fully respect stereo placement it does not really work. And which director takes care about stereo- compatible picture editing?
(But we shouldn't divert from the original topic.....) Best regards, Florian ________________________________________ Von: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]" im Auftrag von "David Pickett [d...@fugato.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Februar 2016 12:32 An: Surround Sound discussion group Betreff: Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public. At 12:01 03-02-16, Justin Bennett wrote: >> On 02 Feb 2016, at 18:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: >> >> From: David Pickett<mailto:d...@fugato.com> >>> >> >> But... I seem to be the only person I know who complains about ALL >> the dialogue coming from the centre speaker on 5.1 movies! Having >> sterero dialogue seems to me to be a basic necessity for realism (AKA >> consistent and natural cues)! >> >> David If you sit in the middle of the (home) >cinema then of course you can >use stereo effectively, but think of the poor person sitting on the >end of the row, all the dialogue >then sounds like it comes from the closest speaker. If the off-axis listener gets mono from the closest speaker, in what way is that any worse than the person in the middle when all that is available to him is mono from the centre speaker? At least with stereo dialogue, the person in the middle gets in, and the others are no worse off than with only a centre feed. >Same problem in amplified theatre / opera, etc.. Same problem with any real 2 channel stereo. So why dont we make MONO recordings instead. >Centre-speaker dialogue is a cheap way to ignore the problem, so that’s what happens most! Cheap is the right word! David _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
