Thanks, Sampo and Andy,I didn't think to check Core Sound's site. (Side: 
coincidentally, I just ordered a Jecklin disk from them.) I wonder if my head 
is shaped like Len M's -- the sampled recordings could be a real binaural 
treat! Both the deafeningly loud club and motorcycles ought to work. Thanks 
again for suggesting.Sampo, I agree. I often work with MEMS mics. SNR getting 
better, but the overall response is so affected by the net acoustic path 
(air-mass loading) that there's always a peak in response. Low frequency 
generally rolls off below 100 Hz without electric filtering, though this can be 
set by manufacturer (f3 = 5 Hz entirely possible, but low freq energy saturates 
system). Regardless of uniform response or SNR, sound quality of microacoustic 
mics is inferior to good studio mics.Best regards,Eric
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  1. Ambisonics recording of LOUD night club or venue? (Eric Carmichel)
  2. Re: Ambisonics recording of LOUD night club or venue?
      (Sampo Syreeni)
  3. Re: Ambisonics recording of LOUD night club or venue?
      (Andy Furniss)


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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric Carmichel <e...@elcaudio.com>
To: "sursound@music.vt.edu" <sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: [Sursound] Ambisonics recording of LOUD night club or venue?
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Greetings Everyone,I haven't posted in ages--a move to Silicon Valley over a 
year ago has occupied my time.Does anybody have a Soundfield recording of a 
loud nightclub or live music venue? I mean really LOUD electronic dance or rock 
music. I understand this isn't something you'd normally take a high-end mic to, 
but I need an accurate representation of the atmosphere. I have live recordings 
taken from feeds, but these aren't representative of what the "sound" is really 
like. A binaural or monaural recording (with quality mics) would help, too, but 
marginal quality recordings made with a Smartphone won't work (otherwise I'd go 
to YouTube and find tons of $%#@).I checked uploaded recordings linked to the 
ambisonic net site: Very cool stuff, but not what I need for a particular 
study.Best regards,Eric
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 04:01:26 +0300 (EEST)
From: Sampo Syreeni <de...@iki.fi>
To: Eric Carmichel <e...@elcaudio.com>,  Surround Sound discussion
    group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics recording of LOUD night club or
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On 2015-06-06, Eric Carmichel wrote:

> Does anybody have a Soundfield recording of a loud nightclub or live 
> music venue? I mean really LOUD electronic dance or rock music. I 
> understand this isn't something you'd normally take a high-end mic to, 
> but I need an accurate representation of the atmosphere.

I don't have one. But from what I understand, SoundFields, especially of 
the classical kind, can take one hell of a beating without even 
distortin too much. I seem to remember you can take a Mark V into an 
environment close to 130dB(A), while still being so-and-so on the safe 
side.

With the newer ones, your mileage may vary. But not too much even there. 
All of the miniaturized mics are of course shit, as they always were.
-- 
Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi, http://decoy.iki.fi/front
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:51:49 +0100
From: Andy Furniss <adf.li...@gmail.com>
To: Eric Carmichel <e...@elcaudio.com>, Surround Sound discussion
    group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics recording of LOUD night club or
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Eric Carmichel wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,I haven't posted in ages--a move to Silicon Valley
> over a year ago has occupied my time.Does anybody have a Soundfield
> recording of a loud nightclub or live music venue? I mean really LOUD
> electronic dance or rock music. I understand this isn't something
> you'd normally take a high-end mic to, but I need an accurate
> representation of the atmosphere. I have live recordings taken from
> feeds, but these aren't representative of what the "sound" is really
> like. A binaural or monaural recording (with quality mics) would
> help, too, but marginal quality recordings made with a Smartphone
> won't work (otherwise I'd go to YouTube and find tons of $%#@).I
> checked uploaded recordings linked to the ambisonic net site: Very
> cool stuff, but not what I need for a particular study.Best
> regards,Eric

http://www.core-sound.com/sampler.php

Has some Binaural one of which claims to be very loud - real head though.


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