Thats interesting thanks Steve. I am looking for positives rather than 
negatives!


Jon Burton
Research Student MSc  
University of York.
jgb...@york.ac.uk





> On 22 Apr 2015, at 21:21, Steven Boardman <boardroomout...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jon
> 
> I add more sub (from main mix) into the lfe channel for broadcast in Dolby
> cinemas. For the same reasons. It doesn't register so much on A weighted or
> Dolby leq (m) meters. This means one can use more headroom of the system
> and push the dynamics and overall spl in the room. I know a few engineers
> that do this for broadcast in cinemas.
> Not sure of any research of the damaging effects though.
> 
> Best
> 
> Steve
> On 22 Apr 2015 20:53, "jon burton" <jgb...@york.ac.uk 
> <mailto:jgb...@york.ac.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> There is a wealth of information regarding the negative effects of Low
>> frequency noise but most of it relates either to vibration issues or sleep
>> related problems. The low frequencies produced in concerts have had very
>> little specific health related research. I recently had a long conversation
>> with one of the major custom earplug manufacturers who was of the opinion
>> that the low frequency levels were of little concern at rock and pop
>> concerts and that is was the A weighted band that we should be concerned
>> with. As I am looking at ways of reducing the A weighted levels by
>> increasing energy in the sub 50Hz region I am looking for research done
>> that may relate to this small but interesting area.
>> I have over the past ten years been using sub to help produce a more
>> immersive experience at low levels. I was wondering if any of the group had
>> tried anything similar. I know there has been research done on gaming
>> chairs using vibration but has anyone done work with sound waves?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Jon Burton
>> Research Student MSc
>> University of York.
>> jgb...@york.ac.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 20:20, Jonathan Burton <jgb...@york.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015, Peter Lennox <p.len...@derby.ac.uk
>> <mailto:p.len...@derby.ac.uk <mailto:p.len...@derby.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>>> I'd be interested in any references indicating deleterious effects on
>> hearing of high amplitudes at LF, if anyone comes across any
>>> cheers
>>> ppl
>>> Dr. Peter Lennox
>>> Senior Fellow of the Higher Education Academy
>>> Senior Lecturer in Perception
>>> College of Arts
>>> University of Derby
>>> 
>>> Tel: 01332 593155
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu 
>>> <mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> <javascript:;>] On Behalf
>> Of Jörn Nettingsmeier [netti...@stackingdwarves.net 
>> <mailto:netti...@stackingdwarves.net> <javascript:;>]
>>> Sent: 22 April 2015 19:20
>>> To: sursound@music.vt.edu <mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu> <javascript:;>
>>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.
>>> 
>>> On 04/22/2015 06:49 PM, jon burton wrote:
>>>> Hi I am new to the group but hoping  someone may be able to help. I
>>>> am looking at the positive effects of low frequencies in music,
>>>> predominantly below 50Hz. This involves aural as well as
>>>> mechanosensations. I am interested in seeing if reinforcing the low
>>>> frequency content below 50Hz can help produce a more immersive
>>>> listening experience at lower overall sound pressure levels
>>>> (particularly when measured using the A weighting scale). Trouser
>>>> flapping bass! I am struggling to find papers on the subject. Any
>>>> suggestions are welcome!
>>> 
>>> Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced with
>>> a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the bass a lot.
>>> So there is plenty anecdotal evidence for more bass resulting in less
>>> weighted sound pressure. For more perceived loudness, mixing in some
>>> typical loudspeaker-like artificial distortion has prevented me from
>>> getting beaten up at a "95 at the mixer" open air metal concert. Don't
>>> ask me who came up with that rule, for that kind of music.
>>> 
>>> But I've heard medical research hint at low frequency exposure having a
>>> very damaging effect across the entire hearing spectrum, which means
>>> that we are mixing around the rules but are actually endangering our
>>> audiences.
>>> Be sure to check the literature for this problem, to get a balanced view.
>>> 
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