Thanks for your reply Jörn. You´ll have to excuse my basic english sentences, as it´s not my primary language.
> "A-format" panning as you call it has nothing to do with ambisonics per se, > and the term frankly doesn't make much sense. > the module you mention is a simple amplitude panner. > > so for your purposes, you might want to look into amplitude panning. > but this has none of the characteristics of ambisonics. Yes, I know there´s no ambisonics until there is. The idea of amplitude panning, during A format stage, is to simplify an analogue path before b-format exists. Without plugins while possible. Soundfield B-format to 5.1 / 7.1 converter (http://www.soundfield.com/products/sp451.php) is actually hardware, so it seems interesting to make analogue panners (anywhere, amplitude or B signals) to keep audio into an analogue path like this: Quadraphonic (same to A-Format but without height?) keyboard or synth signals /// then an amplitude panner /// then the A to B converter /// then a B-format mixing stage /// the hole B-format mix to a Sounfield converter for 5.1 - 7.1 or anything else. > now you _could_ implement an ambisonic with-height b-format panner in analog. > likewise, i could have faxed you my reply in 2's complement, and you could > have OCR'ed it back into your computer. it's needlessly complicated, a waste > of resources, and unless the equipment is constantly being re-calibrated to > perfect accuracy, the result will be so full of errors that it's pretty much > pointless. Well, if there is some kind of B-format analogue panner we would also like to learn about it´s design, so we can actually see how pointless it is. The idea of panning quadraphonic packs seems easier to implement BEFORE an A to B converter. Does that exist?. I suppose something had to exist before DSP´s possibilities. Thanks again. Gino. El 26/09/2013, a las 7:01, Jörn Nettingsmeier <netti...@stackingdwarves.net> escribió: > On 09/26/2013 09:21 AM, Kan Kaban wrote: >> Greetings to all Sursound list. >> >> First of all, thanks for all this years supporting Ambisonics. We´re >> a collective of audiovisual artists preparing for our next project. >> We have been researching ambisonics for the last few moths, seeding >> the possibility of it´s implementation. There are still some concerns >> regarding workflow. Our initial idea is to keep signals / conversions >> into the analogue domain. > > erm? > >> For example, analogue panners. I´ve stepped >> with very few B-format ideas on the internet, so I was wondering if >> there´s a case considering simple A-format panners, before AB >> converters. This eurorack module seems right for the task, right?: >> http://www.intellijel.com/eurorack-modules/planar/ > > "A-format" panning as you call it has nothing to do with ambisonics per se, > and the term frankly doesn't make much sense. > the module you mention is a simple amplitude panner. > > so for your purposes, you might want to look into amplitude panning. > but this has none of the characteristics of ambisonics. > >> But height >> information?. Are B-format panners somehow better? We know of the >> multiple ambisonics ITB plugins available, but again, we love ancient >> analogue qualities. Any info will be very appreciated, we´re really >> exited about this & will love to share the results somewhere in the >> near future. Best regards. Gino. > > for height, you will need vbap, and it's totally insane to even consider > doing this in analog (just think of the operation to find the three nearest > speakers for a given direction). > > unless it's actually pain you love, in which case you've struck a gold mine. > > now you _could_ implement an ambisonic with-height b-format panner in analog. > likewise, i could have faxed you my reply in 2's complement, and you could > have OCR'ed it back into your computer. it's needlessly complicated, a waste > of resources, and unless the equipment is constantly being re-calibrated to > perfect accuracy, the result will be so full of errors that it's pretty much > pointless. > > -- > Jörn Nettingsmeier > Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 > > Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) > Tonmeister VDT > > http://stackingdwarves.net > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
