Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:

I can appreciate both sides of the argument. However, one thing that I would 
love to see:

a) sterile, measurement-like recording of as close to possible to what happened 
recording

It is important to see that the reproduction stage also matters. And that you will adapt some recording choices to the fact that most of the listeners might or actually will listen to the stereo reduction of some real world recording.

If you reproduce your recording via two "spaced speakers" aka stereo, this is not a).

A purist version of a) (on this list) would imply that any recordist/tonemaster would have to record an HOA soundfield. As we have seen, people actually doing recordings don't recommend the eigenmike to be used for (professional) recordings. (At least, not yet.)

Of course you could mix a soundfield from your raw data of many microphones, but is this a) ? No...

I am aware that our tonemasters might be bored of our contributions.

Best,

Stefan

P.S.: a) is at least difficult if not impossible to achieve, whereas b) is just a small part of what an artistic approach might be. (Cos this is not just something about cheap "effects" or "tricks". Maybe you thought about the rest in "etc."? ;-) )


b) post processing with whatever effects, tricks, etc. is required to have 
things sound pleasant and engaging.

What I don't like is the idea of b) being part of a)

In other words, if I want to "fatten up the sound" then I want a "fatten up the sound plug-in" to 
process an anemic recording. I don't want the recording be molested by a "fatten up the sound microphone" or 
"fatten up the sound preamp".

Basically, the aesthetic choices should be separated from capturing the raw 
data as much as anyhow possible, if not for any other reason than to allow some 
alternat aesthetic choices to be made at some later point in time to take into 
account differing tastes, playback devices and environments.

If the raw master recording already has too many artistic/aesthetic choices 
nailed down, it makes it less valuable a resource for posterity.

Ronald


On 6 Jul 2013, at 03:34, Dave Malham <dave.mal...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

All of this, of course, just goes to show how subjective recording is.  In
my younger days I naively thought that we should be working towards exactly
re-creating a soundfield as a way of making the best possible recording.
But until such time the day comes that we can record and reproduce, in our
own living rooms, the position of every molecule of air over a  significant
volume in real time _and_ make due allowance for the effect of the listener
and furniture that wasn't there in the original....

However, and unfortunately even with that accomplished, we would not
recreate (or create) the percept we would have gotten had we been at the
concert because we haven't walked/cycled/driven to the concert hall, nor
eaten the same food in the same restaurant beforehand, nor met the same
people, or... Anyway, at this point I can hear Peter Lennox laughing his
head off, because that was exactly what we used to argue about when he was
at York - and his side of the argument :-)

   Dave


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