I'm sure there are lots of honest (as well as intentional) mistakes in the 
news. So...


-20 dBm (0.00001 W) vs. 1/10 mW vs. 1/10W -- just minor differences.

Obviously, there are bigger (as well as more subtle) blunders in the news than 
30 decibel speech. Perhaps speech levels were measured by the reporter at a 
distance... perhaps the 
length of a soccer field? Or the "decibel" reference wasn't the standard 20 uPa 
-- it didn't state 30 dBA or 30 dB SPL.

Nowadays, I do hear and see more errors regarding "dBm" because impedance (600 
ohms standard for dBm) is rarely accounted for. This, then, often creates 
confusion when teaching the difference among line-level, mic-level, dBm, dBv, 
dBu, dBV, etc. I think I'll go into journalism... few will notice my mistakes.
Best,

ELC


________________________________
 From: David Pickett <d...@fugato.com>
To: Eric Carmichel <e...@elcaudio.com>; Surround Sound discussion group 
<sursound@music.vt.edu> 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Quietest place on Earth revisited
 
At 08:46 24-11-12, Eric Carmichel wrote:

>Back in October (Sursound Digest, Vol 51, Issue 24, to be exact) there
>was a post regarding places to visit, and Orfield Labs, the "quietest
>place on Earth" was showcased. It was then pointed out that the BBC
>article (link below) said, "an average conversation runs at about 30 decibels."
>
>I asked Steve Orfield, who owns/operates Orfield Labs, where this
>figure might have come from. Steve politely replied with, "We aren't
>responsible for the levels. We always reference 65.5 dBA, from the old
>articuatlion index standards and ANSI."
>
>So, I suppose the "30 decibel" level came from an unreliable source --
>seems to happen a lot since the advent of the Internet (that we all
>know is an alien conspiracy).

The BBC does not always check facts.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/fast_track/9766517.stm

See this item on whether electronic gadgets can actually affect the safe 
operation of a plane during take off or landing, where a scientist making the 
measurements mistakenly tells a journalist that -20dBm = 1/10 mW without being 
challenged.  Later the journalist quotes this as 1/10 W.

I wrote to point this out, and received a "thank you for your interest" reply...

David
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