On 9 Oct 2012, at 11:40, Ben Bloomberg <b...@mit.edu> wrote:

> What will be interesting to see is whether this whole "facebook" thing
> will evolve like AOL, compuserve, etc...

That's what I hope. But with ever more companies thinking they have to tie into 
Facebook, use Facebook login as credentials instead of creating accounts on 
their own servers, etc. that's progressively more difficult.

> Already, many people are working on distributed social networking.
> Where the AOL walled garden could completely track you and was full of
> ads, eventually people began to use POP, IMAP and SMTP in other
> programs for email. Now there are protocols and services like diaspora
> and tent.io hoping to do the same thing for social networking.

P2P is the way to go to destroy all these internet monopolies...
We need a bazaar, not mega-malls.

> As far as NAT and centralized services go, people my age still host
> their own boxes. NAT doesn't really stop that. The fact is most
> households still have their own public IP.

Well, of course, they must have a public IP. But usually assigned by DHCP, 
constantly changing, etc.

> That's sufficient to get just about anything you need.

If you're willing to rely yet again on third parties, like DynDNS, Apple's 
"Back to my Mac", etc.

> IPV6 is coming, but its not going to
> change too much (in my opinion) because people are now afraid of the
> open web. That's where you get attacked and can't secure any
> communication. It's easier to have your own kingdom behind NAT where
> you don't need to worry about running Samba (or windows boxes for that
> matter). It's like each household becomes its own datacenter.

That's the misconception that NAT = Firewall. NAT naturally acts like a 
firewall against unsophisticated attacks, but it gives a false sense of 
security, because there are plenty of ways around it, if need be. A good, 
well-configured Firewall is a must, with or without NAT.

Ronald

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