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On 14 January 2011 17:00, <sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu> wrote:

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>   1. Re: tu berlin/telekom labs soundscape renderer
>      (J?rn Nettingsmeier)
>   2. Re: tu berlin/telekom labs soundscape renderer (Franck M.)
>   3. Re: Sursound Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7 (Aart Nienhuis)
>   4. Re: tu berlin/telekom labs soundscape renderer
>      (Ralf R. Radermacher)
>   5. Re: Available UHJ encoders? (J?rn Nettingsmeier)
>   6. Re: Sursound Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7 (J?rn Nettingsmeier)
>   7. Re: Available UHJ encoders? (Dave Malham)
>   8. good quality low noise yet miraculously cheap
>      cardiod/unidirectional microphones ? (Augustine Leudar)
>   9. Re: good quality low noise yet miraculously cheap
>      cardiod/unidirectional microphones ? (John Leonard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:47:47 +0100
> From: J?rn Nettingsmeier  <netti...@stackingdwarves.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] tu berlin/telekom labs soundscape renderer
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
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> On 01/13/2011 01:29 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
> > J?rn Nettingsmeier<netti...@stackingdwarves.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> i'd like to recommend ssr to other sursounders on linux...
> >> ....
> >> apart from binaural, it does ambisonic, vbap and wfs rendering to
> >> speakers (which i haven't tested yet).
> >
> > Does anyone know of anything comparable for Mac OS?
> >
> > I'm desperately looking for a replacement for Jeroen Breebaart's
> > wonderful Isone Pro (Windoze only) for binaural headphone monitoring
> > while recording in double-MS and other surround formats.
>
> i don't see why it shouldn't run on osx with jack and x11 installed, but
> as it depends on GLUT, ecasound, and a number of other things (with
> their own dependencies), building it might be a pain.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:04:53 +0100
> From: "Franck M." <mushroomac...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] tu berlin/telekom labs soundscape renderer
> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
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> ??Ralf R. Radermacher?? <fotor...@gmx.de> wrote
>
> >
> > Does anyone know of anything comparable for Mac OS?
> >
> > I'm desperately looking for a replacement for Jeroen Breebaart's
> > wonderful Isone Pro (Windoze only) for binaural headphone monitoring
> > while recording in double-MS and other surround formats.
> >
>
> There is Longcat's AudioStage, marketed as an object-based 3D authoring
> system, that runs on Mac OS and Windows. Not open-source at all, nor free,
> though.
>
> It seems to include binaural, VBAP and basic Ambisonics renderers among
> others.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:22:22 +0100
> From: Aart Nienhuis <a.nienh...@versatel.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
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> >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:36:39 +0100
> >From: Bo-Erik Sandholm <bo-erik.sandh...@ericsson.com>
> >Subject: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?
> >To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
> >Message-ID:
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> >
> >I like the way a tetramic recording sounds in UHJ stereo but my work
> >flow is not really convinient.
> >
> >I have a windows commandline encoder for B-format to UHJ that I use,
> >but I have forgotten where I found it.
> >
> >Do anyone have a pointer to a jack enabled UHJ encoder, settings for
> >VVMIC or a VST plugin that can encode to UHJ?
> >
> >At the moment I use Reaper on windows to record, but I can dual boot
> >to AVlinux for processing.
> >
> >Regards
> >Bo-Erik
> >
> >------------------------------
>
> Are you familiar with Plogue Bidule ?
> Take a look at my website http://www.dtsac3.com for more info.
> Although not on the site because of it's rather limited use, we do
> have an UHJAMB bidule, where UHJ is made to B-format and then to 5.0
> surround. It does a very good job on some of the old UHJ encoded CD's
> from Wyastone.co.uk ..........
>
> regards,
>
> Aart
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:39:07 +0100
> From: fotor...@gmx.de (Ralf R. Radermacher)
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] tu berlin/telekom labs soundscape renderer
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu (Surround Sound discussion group)
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> Franck M. <mushroomac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There is Longcat's AudioStage, marketed as an object-based 3D authoring
> > system, that runs on Mac OS and Windows. Not open-source at all, nor
> free,
> > though.
> >
> > It seems to include binaural, VBAP and basic Ambisonics renderers among
> > others.
>
> Just had a look eat their website. It does indeed. Still, if I had that
> much money to spend, I'd rather go for a Headzone pro.
>
> Isone Pro wasn't free or open source either but it did one hell of a job
> for a mere 30 euros.
>
> Ralf
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:54:22 +0100
> From: J?rn Nettingsmeier  <netti...@stackingdwarves.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
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> On 01/13/2011 04:36 PM, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote:
> >
> > I like the way a tetramic recording sounds in UHJ stereo but my work
> > flow is not really convinient.
> >
> > I have a windows commandline encoder for B-format to UHJ that I use,
> > but I have forgotten where I found it.
> >
> > Do anyone have a pointer to a jack enabled UHJ encoder, settings for
> > VVMIC or a VST plugin that can encode to UHJ?
> >
> > At the moment I use Reaper on windows to record, but I can dual boot
> > to AVlinux for processing.
>
> under linux, you can run jconvolver with the uhjenc plugin, sounds very
> good, but introduces 2048 samples of latency.
> and fons has recently added an IIR-based uhj encoder to the AMB plugin
> set (with zero latency but likely some compromises in sound quality), i
> haven't had the chance to test it carefully, but a quick run-through
> showed it does the job, although i prefer the sound of the convolution one.
>
> so what i usually do is use either the vmic plugin or, in the future,
> the uhj iir plugin for real-time monitoring during tracking, and the
> convolution-based one for mixing and premastering.
>
> if you're on windows or mac, the AMB plugins will probably be easier to
> build, since they have no dependencies, whereas jconvolver needs the
> zita libs, which in turn depend on fftw3, which might be a bit tricker
> to build.
>
>
> --
> J?rn Nettingsmeier
> Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487
>
> Meister f?r Veranstaltungstechnik (B?hne/Studio), Elektrofachkraft
> Audio and event engineer - Ambisonic surround recordings
>
> http://stackingdwarves.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:56:32 +0100
> From: J?rn Nettingsmeier  <netti...@stackingdwarves.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
> Message-ID: <4d2fad50.6010...@stackingdwarves.net>
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> On 01/13/2011 11:22 PM, Aart Nienhuis wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:36:39 +0100
> >> From: Bo-Erik Sandholm <bo-erik.sandh...@ericsson.com>
> >> Subject: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?
> >> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> <
> e023323b1ad21d44af70273b35e7501501080fb...@esesscms0356.eemea.ericsson.se>
> >>
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >>
> >> I like the way a tetramic recording sounds in UHJ stereo but my work
> >> flow is not really convinient.
> >>
> >> I have a windows commandline encoder for B-format to UHJ that I use,
> >> but I have forgotten where I found it.
> >>
> >> Do anyone have a pointer to a jack enabled UHJ encoder, settings for
> >> VVMIC or a VST plugin that can encode to UHJ?
> >>
> >> At the moment I use Reaper on windows to record, but I can dual boot
> >> to AVlinux for processing.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Bo-Erik
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >
> > Are you familiar with Plogue Bidule ?
> > Take a look at my website http://www.dtsac3.com
>
> this page tried to force a popup on me which was blocked, and another
> which sneaked past the blocker and told me i was the zillionth visitor
> to this website and could claim a prize by entering my cell phone
> number. what the f...?
>
>
> --
> J?rn Nettingsmeier
> Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487
>
> Meister f?r Veranstaltungstechnik (B?hne/Studio), Elektrofachkraft
> Audio and event engineer - Ambisonic surround recordings
>
> http://stackingdwarves.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:52:17 +0000
> From: Dave Malham <d...@york.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Available UHJ encoders?
> To: Surround Sound discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu>
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> On 14/01/2011 01:54, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> >
> > under linux, you can run jconvolver with the uhjenc plugin, sounds very
> good, but introduces 2048
> > samples of latency.
> > and fons has recently added an IIR-based uhj encoder to the AMB plugin
> set (with zero latency but
> > likely some compromises in sound quality), i haven't had the chance to
> test it carefully, but a
> > quick run-through showed it does the job, although i prefer the sound of
> the convolution one.
>
> D*mn, I'm just finishing off a (VST/AU) encoder myself using an IIR filter
> set based on the analogue
> all pass filters in the original Calrec unit (as designed by Geoffrey)- if
> I'd realised Fons had
> done so already, I could have nicked his code and saved myself some
> considerable time :-)
>
>        Dave
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:52:20 +0000
> From: Augustine Leudar <gustar...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Sursound] good quality low noise yet miraculously cheap
>        cardiod/unidirectional microphones ?
> To: sursound@music.vt.edu
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> Hello - could anyone reccomend a good uni/cardiod directional microphones
> for use with the tascam dr 680 ? I intend to strap about five of them
> together to record surround for a bespoke installation (ie it doesnt need
> to
> adhere to a standardised ambisonic format or anything0 . I some may find
> this a preposterous idea - but humour me - so any ideas for the microphones
> ? I will be recording jungle sounds so they need to be low noise but i can
> maybe get away with a fair bit as jungles are quite loud. I have my own
> ways
> of protecting equipment from humidity so that is not an essential facotr,
> cheers,
> Gus
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:24:28 +0000
> From: John Leonard <j...@johnleonard.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] good quality low noise yet miraculously cheap
>        cardiod/unidirectional microphones ?
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> Can you specify a target price?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
> On 14 Jan 2011, at 15:52, Augustine Leudar wrote:
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> > Hello - could anyone recommend a good uni/cardioid directional
> microphones
> > for use with the Tascam DR 680 ?
>
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