Daniel wrote:

I am starting to wonder if I should delete both of the accounts I have on SeaMonkey and start all over with one new account.  I make this comment based on selecting SeaMonkey to provide everything I need...Mail - News - Feeds.

Be aware, Frog, that if you delete both your accounts on SeaMonkey, you will be deleting all the e-mails you have sent and received on those two accounts!

Least that's what happened to me! ;-(


I haven't been following this thread closely, but at this point, a couple of thoughts...

Something that Frog might want to do is consider doing some playing in a different user profile, rather than his current profile. That way, there's more capacity to experiment, without risking damage to existing setups or data.

One way to do that would be to create a new profile in Seamonkey, and try setting up a new connection there. The idea is to figure out the mechanics of what works or not, where you're not trying to work around your existing data. Once you get that working, you can replicate those settings in your normal profile.

Going a step further, consider the possibility of a temporary install of Thunderbird -- its account setup wizard works pretty well (more extensive than Seamonkey), and I've found that for most providers, all it takes to get a workable connection is specifying your email address, password and whether you want POP or IMAP, and the wizard is pretty good about figuring out the rest of the settings. There are exceptions, especially if a provider requires a different password for external clients, as a way of doing a form of multi-factor authentication, but absent that, the setup wizard should be able to do most of the work in figuring things out. As with the suggestion above, once you have a working connection, you can tweak your configs in Seamonkey to match.

However, it is possible that Verizon/AOL is doing something like alternate password, and if so, the only source of information of how to do your configs will be information that you get directly from them. My own mail provider does this, and when I was setting up my phone to be able to check my mail, I found that they required me to do a one-time configuration of a separate password that's used in a mail client (although somehow, they seem to have grandfathered my long-time connection in Seamonkey, where I've never had to adjust that.)

Item of caution: if you're working with a POP connections on a test setup, before you commit to downloading mail from a server, I do encourage you to check the advanced settings, to adjust the mail retention preferences. In Seamonkey, the default setting is to delete mail from the server after it's downloaded, and if you're using a test configuration, it's a good idea to set it to not delete from the server, so that the test connection isn't grabbing mail that you want to go into your normal mail.

Another consideration: if you're changing server names, it's generally better to create a new account anyway, and not try to tinker with the name in an existing account. I have done that in the past, even in changing providers, but the result is that you get a lot of messiness at folder and file level within your user profile, and it's worse when you have multiple accounts. Some of the naming includes server names when created, and if you're digging at that level, it can be really confusing to be seeing old names that don't correspond with current usage. With this in mind, having a new account in place is probably a good idea.

As for making sure that you don't lose any of your mail archives, I recommend either (or both) of the following:

1) Before you do any additional tinkering, make sure you get a backup of your existing profile. In Windows, you want to get the entire contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey . The AppData folder is normally hidden, where you can't find it in the Windows explorer, but if you put that path (with the environment variable) in the Explorer's address bar, it's no problem to find. And depending on what backup tool you use, some allow you to use that construct in what you're including in your backups. For me, if I'm doing a data backup, besides all the normal libraries in Windows, I include that designation, so that I get all my Seamonkey data, and I do the same with my data for Firefox and Thunderbird (%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Firefox and %APPDATA%\Thunderbird, respectively -- Thunderbird's designation is slightly different, for some reason).

Even if you don't do this for your regular backups, getting a copy of your Seamonkey data *somewhere* is a really good idea, even if you simply copy %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to your Documents library.

2) If you anticipate the possibility of deleting your existing POP account, copy all you mail data into Local Folders, where it can stay, even if the account gets deleted. There's a number of useful things that you can do with Local Folders, but in this context, it's a way of getting all your mail copied into account that's not connected to a server.

Smith

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