"David E. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > On 10/3/13 4:57 AM, Desiree wrote: >> On XP Pro, that stupid Flash plugin container tried to start as Sea >> Monkey >> 2.21 was starting! It should not start unless I decide to start Flash >> Player >> which is controlled by a toggle switch and can't start until I give >> permission. Plus, none of the tabs that were loading have any Flash >> Player >> video on them and the Proxomitron blocks all ads that might use Flash. >> So, >> I told Process Guard to deny Flash Plugin container from running. I've >> never >> had a problem doing that in the past but I guess 2.21 won't allow one to >> control Flash Player as when I did that Sea Monkey froze and then >> crashed. >> >> I tried starting it in Safe Mode and same thing, it is not allowed to >> load >> Flash Plugin container so it freezes and crashes. I thought Safe Mode >> disabled plugins? Evidently not...so what is the purpose of Safe Mode? >> >> I updated Flash Player recently and for some stupid reason that activates >> it >> on Fx and SeaMonkey disregarding my plugin settings where I had it >> disabled. >> If I disable it then SeaMonkey should not crash because Flash plugin >> container two processes won't try to load. So, if I can start SeaMonkey >> offline would that work so I could disable Flash plugin? >> >> (The real problem is that no browser should automatically grab a plugin. >> I >> remember when they did not and they still should not do that). > > Windows XP Home Edition SP3 > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.21 > Flash 11.7.700.224 (11.7 r700(224)) > > I used Ctrl-Alt-Del to view the Windows Task Manager. While > plugin-container.exe appeared, it was not consuming any CPU resources, > only memory. Note that plugin-container.exe is also used for plugins > other than Flash. > > Safe Mode only disables extensions, not plug-ins. I think it was a very > bad decision when the Mozilla developers started referring to "add-ons" > as including both; this has led to extreme confusion among end users. > > I control Flash with the Flashblock extension from > <http://flashblock.mozdev.org/>. > > -- > David E. Ross > <http://www.rossde.com/>
I have a powerful CPU (for the age of this computer). I am not concerned about plugin container 2 processes using CPU. I do NOT want plugin container processes eating memory and those processes eat a LOT of memory. The one and only drawback (besides the fact the machine weighs 50 pounds and is really heavy for me to pick up) to this otherwise fantastic (when new and still nice today) gaming computer has been a bug with the nVidia motherboard which limits the RAM to 2GB (and, of course, 32bit Windows XP Pro limits the RAM to slightly over 3GB if I could add RAM). I can't see anyone on XP using SeaMonkey now because it eats too much RAM with unnecessary stuff like these two processes running all the time. Also, I run virtual machines on this computer and I constantly have to watch the ram usage. It's the reason I bought a new Windows 8 computer last November with 16GB RAM which is more than I need. I agree putting plugins on the Addons tool page was foolish but even I who have used Mozilla browsers since 2001 (Netscape before that) knew plugins weren't addons but then they were put on Addons page and wondered about changes and that plugins were now like extensions, ergo, they should be disabled also when using safe mode. _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
