On 7/11/11 6:49 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 11.07.2011 08:26, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
>  --- Original Message ---
> 
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>>>
>>>> They don't seem to accept anything above rv:1.9.2.* - quite broken
>>>> sniffing, IMO.
>>>
>>> All sniffing is broken, IMO.
>>>
>> If you are willing to do without any feature introduced after MOSAIC, or
>> Netscape, or IE6, or wherever you draw you line, that's fine. If you
>> want people to read your page you can use sniffinf to show obsolete
>> browsers a baby page, which has the information in ugly format, while
>> keeping things pretty (scaled sanely to display size) for modern browsers.
>>
> 
> If you want the most amount of users to visit your commercial site then
> make it cross-browser-compatible without all the fancy stuff and dancing
> elves. What Amtrak is doing is unacceptable. ;-)
> 

For each different version of a Web site required by sniffing, there are
duplicate maintenance efforts for the site.

If what Amtrak is doing prevents the visually handicapped from using
audio browsers, then what Amtrak is doing is illegal!  It's a violation
of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).  Furthermore, since Amtrak
is still somewhat an agency of the U.S. government, it's a violation of
Section 508 of the U.S. Rehabilitation Act of 1986 (as amended in 1998),
which mandates all government Web sites to be accessible by the
handicapped.

On 2 October 2007, Federal District Judge Marilyn Hall Patel certified a
class-action lawsuit that alleged the Target Corp violated the ADA (and
California laws) because audio screen-reading software could not work on
parts of Target's Web site, making the site unusable by the blind.
Target settled the lawsuit rather than go to trial.  In settling the
lawsuit, Target agreed to pay $6,000,000 in damages to the National
Federation of the Blind for distribution to those adversely affected by
Target's Web site. Target also agreed to work with the Federation on
repeated testing of its Web site to ensure it is accessible by the
blind. (Accessibility by individuals with other handicaps was apparently
not addressed in the settlement.)

Overall, there are real costs when sniffing is used.

-- 

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

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