Naoki,

MAP et al already supports:
 - private IPv4 addresses
 - full IPv4 address or IPv4 prefix (i.e. does not need NAT44 on the CE)
 - does mesh mode

I'm not quite sure I understand what's left of the problem space to solve.

Best regards,
Ole


> On 18 Feb 2016, at 07:04, Naoki Matsuhira <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Wes,
> 
> I agree the necessity of problem statement. The draft of problem
> statement must require before next Buenos Aires meeting ?  or continue
> on this mailing list?
> 
> I commented in-line below focused only the point that I think.
> 
> Thank you your advice that reorganizing to one or two drafts. I have my
> own reason why 6 drafts exists, however I would like to think at the
> time of future update.
> 
> (2016/02/17 3:41), George, Wes wrote:
>> Below inline with WG]
>> 
>> On 2/16/16, 5:05 AM, "Naoki Matsuhira"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> 
>> WG] it's not totally clear from the above, but it sounds like you're
>> proposing a method to connect IPv4-only islands over an IPv6-only network.
>> There are multiple existing solutions for this, including GRE or IPv4 in
>> IPv6 tunnels, MPLS encapsulation (L2/L3 VPNs), etc. The IETF has also
>> identified a need for "4PE", which is the IPv4 over IPv6 version of
>> RFC4798 (6PE) to do these sorts of island connections in a way that
>> involves less manual provisioning of tunnels. (see RFC 7439 section 3.3.2)
> 
> Basically yes. so I think GRE and IPv4 in IPv6 tunnel are the
> comparison. These technology needs N^2 configuration to connect N with
> fullmesh. For example, in enterprise network, there are dual stack
> backbone and many dual stack stub network, and if backbone dual stack
> network operation move to IPv6 only operation, M46E-FP should contribute.
> 
> 
>> WG] your proposal is very light on details, so it is difficult to evaluate
>> its applicability. Your mention of plane IDs makes me think that you're
>> describing a way to disambiguate overlapping private address space,
>> similar to the VPNv4 address used in RFC4364, which is why I mentioned 4PE
>> above.
> 
> I'm sorry for may poor description capability.
> We already have a running code and demonstrate at WIDE camp, Interop
> tokyo (3 years) , JGN-plus testbed, Strabed testbed. These technologies
> already work. I think draft can more refined on revision.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Naoki
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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