Hi -

I gave this draft a quick review in preparation for identifying what we might 
discuss in our next meeting in Dallas.

It is unclear to me what the relationship is between draft-song-sunset4 and 
draft-davey-sunset4, and I think they should probably be integrated into one 
draft. Or does the newer draft supersede the other? If the one supersedes the 
other, I can send mail to the secretariat so that the metadata reflects that.

Either way, there are additional things to discuss in this space, such as the 
interaction between the DNS server, IPv4 transition/life extension 
technologies, address selection, and happy eyeballs. Some of it is covered in 
draft-ietf-dhc-conn-status-00, but I'm not certain what the status of that 
draft is.

The problem statement we discussed at a DHC/Sunset4 joint meeting was as 
follows:
•Many networks will have both IPv4 and IPv6, but with varying transition 
technologies affecting the quality of those stacks
–“real” IPv4 (no CGN)
–CGN IPv4 (potentially broken for some apps)
–NAT64/DNS64 (also potentially breaks things)
–IPv6 (only)
•How do you tell dual-stack hosts which to use/avoid?
–For which destinations?
–With which protocol(s)?
–Happy Eyeballs helps, but can be non-deterministic

Thanks,

Wes


From: Davey Song <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, October 27, 2014 at 9:00 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [sunset4] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
draft-song-sunset4-ipv6only-dns-00.txt

Hi folks, I have just post a new draft on IPv6-only DNS development. Comments 
are welcome!!

A new version of I-D, draft-song-sunset4-ipv6only-dns-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Linjian Song and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-song-sunset4-ipv6only-dns
Revision:       00
Title:          Considerations on IPv6-only DNS Development
Document date:  2014-10-27
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          8
URL:            
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-song-sunset4-ipv6only-dns-00.txt
Status:         
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-sunset4-ipv6only-dns/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-song-sunset4-ipv6only-dns-00


Abstract:
   Deployment of IPv6-only networks are impacted by assumptions of
   IPv4-only or dual-stack transition scenarios.  For example, these
   assumptions are in the operations of DNS.  This memo is problem
   statement and hopes to eventually propose a mitigation technique.




Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at 
tools.ietf.org<http://tools.ietf.org>.

The IETF Secretariat



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