Hi Jerome and all,

you have linked the same pdf twice. I think you meant the following two
links:
for the Chebyshev files:
ftp://ftp.imcce.fr/pub/ephem/planets/vsop2013/ephemerides/README.pdf
and for the elliptic elements:
ftp://ftp.imcce.fr/pub/ephem/planets/vsop2013/solution/README.pdf

As Jerome said the elliptic elements are much more interesting because
of the possibility to reduce them by truncating the higher order terms.

Greetings,
Theodor


Am 03.10.2015 um 01:46 schrieb JBerthier:
> Hi,
>
> VSOP2013 is the last release of the analytic planetary theory VSOP87. It is 
> easy to use. You can choose to use theseries of the 
> elliptic elements 
> (ftp://ftp.imcce.fr/pub/ephem/planets/vsop2013/ephemerides/README.pdf) or the 
> Chebyshev files 
> (ftp://ftp.imcce.fr/pub/ephem/planets/vsop2013/ephemerides/README.pdf). The 
> solution (terms of series) covers the time span -4000 
> +8000, while the Chebyshev ephemerides covers the time span -4500 +4500. The 
> interest of the solution is that it can be reduced with 
> the elimination of terms depending on the required accuracy. All the 
> planetary theories VSOP, INPOP, DExxx are very similar in terms 
> of planetary ephemerides.
>
> jerome
>
>
>
> On 10/03/2015 12:11 AM, Georg Zotti wrote:
>> Dear Theodor,
>>
>> thank you for the link, I will have a look in the next weeks.
>>
>> You are right, we are planning to have DE43x as option for advanced users,
>> also with the possibility to use the file stored outside Stellarium
>> folders (in case you are using it already in other software - no need to
>> copy 3GB again ;-).
>>
>> I haven't read much more than the existence of VSOP2013 or INPOP. Is it as
>> easy to use and as complete as VSOP87A and does it cover at least its date
>> range, i.e., is it a straightforward exchange? It might be worth thinking
>> about using several ephemeris versions...
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Georg
>>
>> On Fr, 2.10.2015, 15:20, erazortt wrote:
>>> Dear Georg,
>>>
>>> great to hear that the newest JPL data will be usable! (I assume it will
>>> be optional)
>>>
>>> If you want to cross-check your results using classical computation
>>> versus the new IAU computation path I'd be happy if my program would
>>> help: http://thaec.rascanu.de/
>>> Installation instructions are included. With a Linux environment it
>>> should take less than 5min.
>>>
>>> As a side: Since the JPL DExxx data sets are not exactly small, I assume
>>> most of the stellarium users will probably not use the possibility to
>>> load these files, and will thus stick with the VSOP87 calculation you
>>> are using.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it would make sense to update to the VSOP2013 series, which like
>>> VSOP87 is very small compared to the numerical JPL data and could be
>>> used as default. Thus also enhancing the calculation for the bulk of the
>>> users.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Theodor
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.09.2015 um 07:07 schrieb Georg Zotti:
>>>> Dear Theodor,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for your offer, but the DE43[01] challenge has been taken,
>>>> there
>>>> is a branch "socis2015-de430" on launchpad. Stellarium does not use SOFA
>>>> and goes the "classical" path without ERA, so maybe your program would
>>>> still interest me as it could be a way to check our results.
>>>>
>>>> So, is your program available somewhere? (plus, please, instructions how
>>>> to build, libraries to fetch etc.)
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Georg
>>>>
>>>> On So, 27.09.2015, 22:55, erazortt wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen that there is a SOC2015 project for using new ephemeris
>>>>> files.
>>>>> Searching though the mailing list it appeared that there is still
>>>>> nobody
>>>>> doing this job.
>>>>> If however there somebody is already someone doing it, do not bother
>>>>> reading the rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I do not have time to contribute myself directly, perhaps I
>>>>> could still help out.
>>>>> Some time ago I have written a small C++ program of around 1000 lines
>>>>> code which uses the CALCEPH library to either read JPL DE43x or
>>>>> INPOP13c
>>>>> files.
>>>>> It uses the IAU sofa library to calculate the needed time scales in a
>>>>> cascade: local time->UTC->TAI->TT->TDB and TCB.
>>>>> It downloads the current polar motion and calculates the pole and
>>>>> origin
>>>>> of GCRS and ITRS together with the ERA (earth rotation angle).
>>>>>
>>>>> It finally extracts the ephemeris using calceph and calculates the
>>>>> positions in all reference frames with sofa, taking into account light
>>>>> travel and atmospheric conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code does also download newest values for UT1-UTC, polar motion and
>>>>> corrections to the precession and nutation model from IERS and
>>>>> corrections to TT from BIPM.
>>>>> It uses exclusively the IAU2000/06 calculation path (opposing to using
>>>>> sidereal time, equinox and ecliptic).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested I can provide the source code. As I said, it is
>>>>> very short!
>>>>> If needed I could also answer questions related to the sofa and calceph
>>>>> libraries or more general questions concerning the time scales or the
>>>>> IAU calculation path.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Theodor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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