yes, starlink does respond to its customers' complaints, although
sometimes slowly. its ipv4 address acquisition is scattered around as
a latecomer to the isp world, and as a global local isp, it's more
troublesome. ip packets have to be tunneled back to its home pop where
nat and other functions happen, sometimes around the world, causing a
much higher minimum rtt fluctuation in 15-second handover
intervals---bad for network protocols and applications. ipv6 can do
better but currently follows the same route as ipv4---an incentive to
promote ipv6 ;-)
--
J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), p...@uvic.ca, Web.UVic.CA/~pan

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:04 AM Noel Butler <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks, it seems they are trying it on then :)
>
> On 04/12/2023 10:44, J Pan wrote:
>
> starlink advertises its customer ip address location at
> http://geoip.starlinkisp.net (not always updated but good enough in
> most cases and traceroute can confirm to some extent as well)
> --
> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), p...@uvic.ca, Web.UVic.CA/~pan
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 4:15 PM Noel Butler via Starlink
> <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>
> I run an open access usenet server, but only for those within my CC, so 
> access is by IP based on our CC allocations from APNIC.
>
> Because IPv4 exhaustion this changes sometimes with buying allocations from 
> other regions, and if they get denied access I encourage them to let us know 
> so we can keep ACL's updated, I've had a request from a starlink user who 
> claims they are here, but traceroute shows them in .DE
>
> tracing some 217.foo.ad.dr
>
> ...
> 9 ae-6.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.183) 290.223 ms 290.180 ms 
> ae-1.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.7.35) 280.523 ms
> 10 ae-1.a03.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.152) 290.109 ms 289.667 ms 
> 292.864 ms
> 11 ae-0.spacex.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (213.198.72.19) 279.611 ms 278.840 
> ms 279.592 ms
> 12 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.189) 280.127 ms 278.506 ms 
> 284.265 ms
> 13 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.209) 284.198 ms 
> undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.201) 274.663 ms 273.073 ms
> 14 * * *
>
>
> As it is our policy to not collect any user info or issue user/pass's and  
> only allow access by IP, I'm hoping someone here knows if they are full of 
> it, or does starlink really assign addresses from anywhere? That one hardly 
> makes sense for user experience, or maybe starlink has so few users in this 
> country they haven't bothered changing anything yet?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Noel Butler
>
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