The use of MPTCP on satellite links has been analyzed here (for example) and the use of PEPs in GEO satellite links prevent the use of MPTCP: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-mptcp-mptcp-satellite-01#page=13&zoom=auto,-91,32
Another option could be MPQUIC (still in development AFAIK), I have been told in the past that a tighter integration of satellite and terrestrial networks is required mainly for business purposes (billing). Regards, David > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 17:51:37 +0100 > From: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaf...@gmail.com> > To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petre...@gmail.com> > Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > Subject: Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of > Satellites and Terrestial Networks > Message-ID: > <cajehh73r-9hz3_c6ause9gezdhkpmrvtmheodoykn6fmzgq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > With the existence of solutions like OpenMTCProuter, SDWAN, policy based > routing or any solution in general that allows combination in a sense of > any number of IP links, I really don't see a point for specific solutions. > Can anyone enlighten me? > > For home users an issue may be IP blocks for certain services like Netflix > when the egress is out of a VPN or cloud provider richer than a residential > provider > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:57 PM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> >> Le 30/08/2023 à 14:10, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : >> > Here is a report which summarizes the outcome of the last Satellites >> > conference >> > [ >> https://www.microwavejournal.com/articles/39841-satellite-2023-summary-linking-up >> ] >> > >> > The report highlights the two main hurdles against the integration of >> > satellites and terrestrial networks: standardization and business model. >> > >> > "/Most of the pushback against closer integration of terrestrial >> > wireless and satellite networks revolved around standardization. This >> > may just be growing pains and it likely reflects the relative >> > positions of wireless and satellite along the maturity curve, but some >> > of the speakers were arguing against standardization. The basis of >> > this argument was that the mobile industry only understands standards, >> > but the satellite industry is currently differentiating based on >> > custom systems and capabilities. The feeling was that the satellite >> > industry had focused on technology and not regulations or standards >> > and changing that course would not be helpful to the industry in the >> > short term. Timing is important in this analysis because almost >> > everyone agreed that at some point, standardization would be a good >> > thing, but the concern was the best way to get to the point in the >> > future. The other interesting argument against closer integration >> > between wireless and satellite had to do with the business model. >> > Several speakers questioned where the customers would go as >> > terrestrial and non-terrestrial networks become more integrated. The >> > underlying issues seemed to include who is responsible for solving >> > network issues and perhaps more importantly, who recognizes the >> > revenue. These issues seem, perhaps a bit simplistically, to be >> > similar to early wireless roaming issues. While these issues created >> > turbulence in the wireless market, they were solved and that is >> > probably a template to address these challenges for the wireless and >> > satellite operators."/ >> > / >> > / >> > Comments? >> >> >> It is an interesting report. >> >> For standardisation standpoint, it seems SDOs do push towards >> integration of 5G/6G and satcom; there are strong initiatives at least >> at 3GPP (NTN WI proposals) and IETF (TVR WG) in that direction. But >> these are SDOs traditionally oriented to land communications, rather >> than space satcom. >> >> I wonder whether space satcom traditional SDOs (which ones?) have >> initiated work towards integration with 5G/6G and other land-based >> Internet? >> >> Alex >> >> > >> > Hesham >> > _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
