Sorry Daniel. I didn't see your message until I replied. Understood.
On to 3.3... On Jun 20, 2012 6:27 PM, "David J" <da...@styleflare.com> wrote: > Dave. > > Understandably. But my point was missed if you think that anyone here is > trying to monopolize on the list please do understand that they usually > "contribute" to the project. Besides they are responsible for making > kamailio what is today. All so you can benefit. To say that there rates are > outrageous is an insult to the great software your going to use. You should > look at the overall value that the software provides and calculate how much > you saved by nit having to build it yourself for the last 10yrz yourself. > > Once you put it in to perspective its really a very good value to use a > seasoned developer on the list. > > I am sure they can respect your budget but equally respect their time and > contribution. > On Jun 20, 2012 6:13 PM, "copycall" <d...@copycall.com> wrote: > >> david, >> >> invariably, this happens on most open source projects and lists. >> >> a few of developers begin to think all the roads lead through them. >> >> and, they are out today to protect their turf >> >> so, they start with the barber-shop membership, pseudo-licensing, and a >> separate list: the gatekeeping begins. >> >> i have contacted some of the "developers" on the list over the last 18-24 >> months about other projects. >> >> their pricing was outrageous for a small service provider and the >> specific project, other alternatives had to be found. >> >> i concluded they were looking for the "home run" client, an att or >> verizon. >> >> it's the same today, a small innocuous job elicits the mocking, >> compulsive rule citations, and in your case, a slighting of all the >> kamailio users who are not on the developer's list. >> >> maybe you are right, maybe no one can do this job but a developer on the >> list. obviously, if this is the case, money will not be exchanged. >> however, not one developer has offered their services at any price. i will >> welcome these proposals. >> >> maybe some users do not want to be on the developers list, or they are >> not ready, or have the time at the moment. but, maybe they want to do a >> small job to see where it leads, or for fun, or they need a few extra bucks. >> >> i don't mind the possible risk in giving someone a chance. >> >> regarding the pricing you mentioned, my job as a buyer is to get the best >> value for my money. but, thanks for your price list. >> >> since several people have already offered their services, i think you are >> a bit misinformed about the competitive marketplace. >> >> if your goal is to grow the number of service providers using kamailio, >> you have employed an odd strategy to implement it. >> >> dave >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, David <da...@styleflare.com> wrote: >> >>> To chime in here, >>> >>> On behalf of the professional developers on the list, it seems "a guy >>> giving a try" may get you stated but someone with experience will get you >>> there faster with a more predictable result. >>> >>> I would think the going rate today for an experienced kamailio developer >>> is about $150/hr US. its possible someone in a developing country on odesk >>> will try and charge less like $60 USD which is the equivalent of someone >>> here charging $1500/hr, but they most probably dont have 8-10 years >>> experience, and also a very high probability they don't contribute to the >>> community. Its also more than likely they wont finish the project or get >>> you much past whats available to you for FREE on the WIKI. >>> >>> You have to realize professionals charge professional rates, seeing that >>> it was "Alex bashing", If you actually search the mailing list, Alex >>> happens to answer many difficult questions for users free of charge. So if >>> you think Alex is getting rich quick of this list, your obviously very >>> fresh to the list. >>> >>> Your certainly welcome to post a more specific question on the list like >>> how come my server only processes 1 cps... >>> >>> I am sure the community will be very eager to help. >>> >>> Good luck on your project, if you do happen to succeed please inform the >>> list, we would be happy to welcome your star developer into the community. >>> >>> All the best. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/20/12 3:28 PM, copycall wrote: >>> >>> alex, >>> >>> if it offended you, then i apologize for telling you to "get a pair". >>> >>> well, i have received several offers to do what i am looking for, not >>> all at my asking price, which you think is too low. >>> >>> maybe some kamailio users don't consider themselves developers, but are >>> still interested in trying something new. >>> >>> i am willing to give someone an opportunity, including you. >>> >>> dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Fred Posner <f...@teamforrest.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: >>>> >>>> > On 06/20/2012 02:38 PM, Fred Posner wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I know a great bakery that can offer dessert kamailio pricing. >>>> >> Generally, $6/portion starting. >>>> > >>>> > What's the going rate for the Millenium Falcon cake these days? :-) >>>> > >>>> >>>> They start at $250 and increase by size. =) >>>> >>>> Death Stars are much cheaper. =) >>>> >>>> With best regards, >>>> >>>> Fred >>>> http://qxork.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list >>>> sr-users@lists.sip-router.org >>>> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing >>> listsr-us...@lists.sip-router.orghttp://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list >>> sr-users@lists.sip-router.org >>> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list >> sr-users@lists.sip-router.org >> http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users >> >>
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