Thank you all for the answers. Finally, there is not a very big problem if one side is disconnected because the other side will end dialog when phone will be hang up

have a good day :)

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Le -10/01/-28163 22:59, Reda Aouad a écrit :
Not also that the recommend session timer value that UACs generally use by default is 1800 seconds, or 30 minutes. Just in case you may accept it. To me, it's not acceptable when customers are billed.

However, the risk is not so big. If one of the UACs is suddenly disconnected, the other party will most likely hang up, the dialog is terminated and finally we loose only a few seconds of billing.

Reda



On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:02, Reda Aouad <reda.ao...@gmail.com <mailto:reda.ao...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hello,

    In SIP, session timers can be used to periodically ping the UAC
    (using a re-INVITE or UPDATE) to know if it's alive or not. Then
    action can be taken - terminating the call.

    Kamailio has the SST (SIP Session Timer) module which only
    enforces a minimum session timer value for UACs, but not a maximum
    one. It doesn't ping the UACs neither. This is fine because the
    RFC stops here. A nice improvement to Kamailio would be to augment
    the SST module with a feature which enforces a maximum session
    timer value and pings UACs. Another suggestion would be to rely on
    nathelper's keepalive results to take a decision after a keepalive
    times out, but then we'd have to terminate all dialogs in which
    the UAC that is not responding is present, since nathelper's
    keepalive are out-of-dialog. No very neat, but functional.

    And I don't think the dialog module can do anything about this
    problem.

    I know that what I am suggesting may not be defined in RFCs, and
    so are some features of SIP servers, but in my opinion should be
    implemented as it adds a great value to Kamailio.

    We cannot rely on RTP timeout since a UAC may use a
    silence-detection codec and be silent for some time, or may put a
    call on hold for a while, not sending RTP packets in both cases.
    This is why RTP timeout detection is not reliable. Anyway,
    mediaproxy timeouts ONLY AND ONLY in the case it doesn't receive
    RTP packets from BOTH UACs, not only one, for the reasons
    mentioned. I don't know about rtppoxy, maybe others can tell more
    about it.

    One solution if you really need to solve your problem would be to
    put a B2BUA in the SIP path, such as Asterisk or FreeSwitch. They
    enforce a maximum session timer which UACs can use to ping
    themselves every now and then, and Asterisk can even ping the UACs
    and terminate the call if one of them doesn't respond. The
    downside: lower performance and higher cost. Asterisk is very
    heavy and Kamailio can handle many, many more calls, so you'll
    have to load balance to several Asterisk servers if you have a
    single Kamailio machine handling thousands of simultaneous calls.

    Kamailio developers out there, what about boosting the SST module
    with new features? Or creating an SSTX module?

    Reda



    On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 07:35, SamyGo <govoi...@gmail.com
    <mailto:govoi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hi,

        Yes that is the behaviour when the media isn't flowing through
        a regulatory tool (in-terms it sees the media and know call is
        actually going on rtpproxy/media-proxy)  but in the absence of
        any such tool SIP server is not aware that the call-media is
        still in progress or is dead ! so it always assume that the
        call is active and hence the BYE signals are never originated
        from server end to shutdown the call.

        I am definitely not an expert but I am guessing
        that dialogue module do some keepalive tests for an ongoing
        session and not sure what it do if either end fails to respond !!

        Regards,
        Sammy

        On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Vineet Menon
        <mvineetme...@gmail.com <mailto:mvineetme...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            i guess it should time out...the other end...since it has
            no way of knowing that the other end is no more present...

            Regards,

            Vineet Menon





            On 20 March 2012 11:30, Rabary <te...@gulfsat.mg
            <mailto:te...@gulfsat.mg>> wrote:

                Hi mailing,

                Newbie to kamailio, I follow this tuto
                
http://nil.uniza.sk/sip/kamailio/adding-mysql-support-kamailio-31-debian-lenny
                for the registration SIP via mysql database and it
                works fine, but I saw that when during the call we
                disconnect the called UAC from network or turn the
                power off the caller UAC don't hangup.
                Is there any tool for how to hangup call when the UAC
                on the other side has no network connection or it
                isn't power on durring a call ?
                I heard for mediaroxy or rtpproxy but I don't know if
                them can do what I except to haveand we also use ip
                routing to make kamailio server to communicate with
                the UAC so we don't use NAT.

                Our topology is:
                kamailio (with public IP address) ---> cisco switch
                ---> LAN ---> UAC (with private IP address)

                Thanks in advance.

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