hello

im coming back to ask on this forum, sorry if im at the wrong place, but i 
guess there are some sip experts around here (if it's not the right place, tell 
me where...)

i was wondering, what about the public enum usage for sip networks?
i mean, is there any type of public networks, known for having an 
opened/accessible users scheme?

eg : here in france there areĀ  linphone and ippi, and others (providing 
software+service)
both, offers both software+service, but can be dissociated
means its possible (normally) to use another sip software with a provider, etc

the idea is, there is what i think called a DID/URI, whom looks like email 
principle :
u...@domain.com ; but in a way, it's a bit similar for xmpp and sip : 
al...@first.com could email, call or message b...@second.net ; and normally, 
it's minded to be interoperable (or federated) on an opened-network circuit.

what i try to understand is :
URI or DID might be i guess, the u...@domain.net.
however, if sip is really used today, it's on closed networks. I mean, using 
data, only whatsapp and others, I guess uses xmpp or sip, but not in an 
opened-way, means not +123...@whatsapp.org, what would be great to be 
communicate with, without having to install their app.

on ""real"" opened-community, such as callcentrix or voip.ms, it's the case : a 
user of a domain could reach another domain, using it's DID/URI email.

well, I found then that there is a kind of ENUM thing I discovered few days 
ago. instead of defunct iNum, where it was supposed to be as an online voip 
accessible and free from internet (like skype) new kind of voip network, ENUM 
looks like to be enclosed one. As operators mainly looks for ""security"" (or 
security of closed-business), i found those things :


https://wiki.freepbx.org/display/DIMG/SIP+Enum+Support
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP/ENUM_and_E146_Technology
https://www.lightreading.com/cable-technology/the-impact-of-enum-on-voip
https://lafibre.info/images/peering/201506_efort_carrier_enum.pdf


so if i understand well, mainly operators took SIP protocol to create their own 
voIP network, to their susbcribers ; not bad if it wasnt totally-closed?

imho, i then discovered that all operators around the world have (for a part of 
them) a voip/sip account for all volte or even for business lines. My mind was, 
sip looks like to be great working. But what surprised me in the bad way : why 
isnt it possible, because it's 100% data usage, to call them directly from a 
common "voip/callcentric/linphone/other" sip account?

i guess it's a question of money, but i dont understand then why people dont go 
directly on a sip account if their computer is internet connected h24 or even 
LTE/5G running permanently on their phone : it would be double unlimited plus 
free of charge international calls. Know people will tell me "just it's 
whatsapp", but no : whatsapp brings just simplicity + zero rating in some 
countries, not privacy-compliant and opened and federated usage. am I wrong?

on my own, I would have a little question for the nerds or passionate, like me, 
to SIP protocol for opened-networks, to ensure it's possible to simple voip 
communicate with relatives, on the same scheme as email : just call a contact 
by it's u...@domain.net, and it might work. How could you convince your 
relatives to go on a such scheme?

I mean, in EU we have several voip initiative, whom are fully accessible from 
worldwide callers, where in N/america there are voip.ms and callcentric, maybe 
others.. are those users only using it for pstn-paid calls? why not skype then?

in addition : is there a directory of opened-sip URI/DID/ENUM to be in touch 
with, to see what operators/voip service providers permits their users to be 
called from anywhere around the world?

the main advantage of this is like email (or xmpp) : just with a voip/sip 
software, + a sip account, calls to any other sip user around the world, is 
generally totally free and unlimited. Why dont people adopt it, instead of 
whatsapp&etc?

are they some opened-voip providers directory, where some individuals or 
organisations could be called from over the world, through sip?

do you know some organisation, NGO or companies whom can be called from just a 
opened-sip network provider?

thank you for reading, and much more if you share your thoughts
(and sorry for bad eng..)

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