lol …. i hope you don’t spent much time for helping people here on the mailing list for free .
thanks again for your time . > On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what > you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not > forget about the volume of the video itself. > > As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under > HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that > Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas. > > In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of > ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These > solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to > give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free. > > 20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет: >> you are correct . >> >> but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store id . >> also it support couple of websites without that much effort . >> >> what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i >> talk about the normal squid users . >> >> cheers >> >>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented. >>> And it is called the invention Store-ID. >>> >>> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see >>> any problem. >>> >>> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет: >>>> hey guys . >>>> >>>> as long as the video cache has been opened now and in past proved its >>>> strength with http other websites for video . >>>> >>>> ((lets put youtube away now .)) >>>> >>>> >>>> why don’t we see development on it to support the video contents of >>>> websites that support http like daily motion and its sisters websites . >>>> >>>> >>>> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook >>>> ??? >>>> >>>> >>>> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was >>>> great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ? >>>> >>>> >>>> i think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than >>>> inventing solution from scratch . >>>> >>>> thanks again squid users Guys >>>> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not >>>>> have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google >>>>> videos. >>>>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period >>>>> and they have a forums which can be used to get more details. >>>>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since >>>>> it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts. >>>>> >>>>> Eliezer >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Eliezer Croitoru >>>>> Linux System Administrator >>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261 >>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18 >>>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; >>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет: >>>>>> Yuri, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's >>>>>> possible and I am not selling it.... >>>>>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just >>>>>> by seeing how many downloaded it..). >>>>>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know >>>>>> something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public >>>>>> should know about. >>>>>> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I >>>>>> would be able to understand better what should be published and how. >>>>>> Any redirections are welcomed.. >>>>>> >>>>>> A note: >>>>>> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you >>>>>> would be able to predict couple things... >>>>> I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago. >>>>> Unfortunately, I had more important priorities. >>>>> But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and >>>>> really works. >>>>> >>>>> Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT >>>>> store-ID helper later. >>>>> >>>>> However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public >>>>> domain, or obsolete, or are worthless. >>>>> >>>>> And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really >>>>> worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work. >>>>> >>>>> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake. >>>>>> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file >>>>>> and replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack >>>>>> each of their clients machine when they will be updated. >>>>>> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID >>>>>> level of understanding networking and Computer Science. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru >>>>>> Linux System Administrator >>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261 >>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08 >>>>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <elie...@ngtech.co.il>; >>>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https? >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know >>>>>> what I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are >>>>>> really able to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile >>>>>> devices - all without exception - is no solution in the form of open >>>>>> source or blob will not offer free. This is big money. As for Google, >>>>>> and for those who use it. Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with >>>>>> the way Youtube counteracts caching and close useless discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not >>>>>> be. If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type >>>>>> of client (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop >>>>>> blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a solution - you'd sold it >>>>>> for money. But you do not have it, isn't it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking >>>>>> for. >>>>>> >>>>>> For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the >>>>>> wiki. If someone else wants to spend a year or two for new >>>>>> investigations - welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> 20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет: >>>>>>> Yuri, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this? >>>>>>> I mean, what would anyone get from this? >>>>>>> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or >>>>>>> would you want only an open source solution? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux System >>>>>>> Administrator >>>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261 >>>>>>> Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54 >>>>>>> To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy >>>>>>> certificate to the clients. >>>>>>> The problem in combating caching YT by Google. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет: >>>>>>> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет: >>>>>>> thanks, yuri, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote: >>>>>>> This is fake. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only for strange definitions of "fake". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It >>>>>>> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still >>>>>>> using HTTP. >>>>>>> YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time >>>>>>> (after they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google >>>>>>> itself >>>>>>> - can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last >>>>>>> two years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I explain here why: >>>>>>> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis >>>>>>> c >>>>>>> ussion >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to >>>>>>> cache. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you look at the features list it clearly says: >>>>>>> "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching." >>>>>>> HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> squid-users mailing list >>>>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>>>> <mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org> >>>>>>> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> squid-users mailing list >>>>> squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org >>>>> http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users >>> -- >>> Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. >>> <0x613DEC46.asc> > > -- > Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them. > <0x613DEC46.asc>
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