Steve and Ken made very knowledgeable and professional posts, as they always do. However, now it is my turn.
If you are required to pull multiple permits for the same installation, this should be written somewhere, along with an explanation of who is to do what. This should be made available to you. Next, exactly what additional tests are required for the FP contractor beyond what the plumber is doing? This should be detailed and backed up by requirements on the Code. Last, what if one of these FP tests fails, who is responsible for fixing it, the guy who originally installed it or the FP contractor? That should be clearly stated. To me, this seems like little more than a money grab by someone. Or someone who is making stuff up as they go along. > > On Feb 28, 2024 at 7:03 PM, <Ken Wagoner > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > Chris, > > I don't disagree with anything Steve Leyton said in his reply. I would add > to his commentary regarding a 3rd party plan reviewed that since my firm > began doing such work in '88 we followed whatever the appropriate AHJ asked > us for, as they had the final say. > > I would suggest that it's worth exploring with the AHJ or local > codes/ordinances where you as the sprinkler contractor are required to pull a > separate permit for that service. It seems pretty redundant and > duplicative to me, however that's just personal opinion. > > I do note, however that 13R in ยง9.3 seems to suggest that a combined > domestic and fire service to the building is completely acceptable with > certain qualifiers regarding domestic demand being accounted for. > > let us know how this is resolved, > > Ken Wagoner, SET > Parsley Consulting > 500 West Mechanic Street > Harrisonville, Missouri 64701-2235 > Phone: (760) 745-6181 > Visit the website > (https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.parsleyconsulting.com%2f&c=E,1,Y5zKJKPEh1mBEBqSR-VE9cUKl5y-eyP8BpvmE_5j9ZqW2eJbNphYzrCMBZ-2YuX6d-RRkHI4gQ1FV-cvOeCfRC58uZS9NiToZv2mx7909oCqLvCW_n5hDHeK&typo=1) > > > > > > > On 2/28/2024 2:40 PM, Chris Dorn wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a 13R sprinkler system whose water supply is a 2โ combination > > domestic/fire line run from the city main into the mechanical room. The > > plumber installed the line and pulled the proper permits for the > > installation of that domestic line. The plumber left a 2โ outlet left > > inside of the building as a fire supply. The local building department uses > > an outside corporation to review and handle permits / inspections called > > NIC or National Inspection Corporation. NIC is requiring that we as the > > fire protection contractor are also required to apply and pull a permit and > > perform all tests required for a fire line on the 2โ domestic service that > > was installed. I am looking for backup to argue this requirement as it > > seems redundant and unnecessary. I cannot find where this is > > specifically addressed either in NFPA codes or the IBC. Does anyone have > > any information that may be applicable to this situation? > > > > > > > > Thank you, Chris > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > > mailing list: > > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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