I would think that hangers as close to the ends of pipes A and B would
easily support 2'-0 of pipe and 6 elbows, if there is a concern that all
the flexible couplings will allow the assembly to sag then possibly putting
a trapeze hanger below the lowest point of the assembly should keep it
level and not interfere with movement. Just a thought.

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On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:42 AM Brent M. Garvey <[email protected]>
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> I am inclined to agree with your office staff.  If you place a hanger on
> the seismic separation assembly, you would be restricting the ability of
> the assembly to move in the Z axis and thus defeat the purpose of the
> assembly.
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> *From:* James Crawford <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2023 5:13 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Hangers on Seismic swing joint
>
>
>
> NFPA #13 (2013) 9.3.3 Seismic Separation Assembly
>
>
>
> There has been some discussion between the designers and the field staff
> on whether you can put a hanger on anything other then the pipes shown as
> “A” & “B” on Figure A.9.3.3(a)
>
>
>
> Background 8” feed main crosses the seismic separation.
>
>
>
> Field staff say that due to the weight of the pipe and the flexible
> fittings, a hanger is required to stop it from swinging down.
>
>
>
> Office staff say no hanger as it would defeat the purpose of the swing
> joint as it would restrict movement.
>
>
>
> Comments or background either way as we can find nothing in the code for
> either option.
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> Thank You
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