Thanks, I also found this in NFPA 25.

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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Old Pipe Scheduled Systems

I see these all the time.

1. There is a section in 13 about water supplies for pipe schedule systems. 
That won’t give you something for a placard but it would tell you if there is 
sufficient water for it.

2. Placards are only required for hydraulically calculated systems.

Several years ago, I was asked to hydraulically calculate a pipe schedule 
system in a school in my town. The FM was insisting on the full calc. When I 
went back to him and said the system in the much-gabled attic would be flowing 
54 sprinklers in the 2535 sqft design area, which could not be provided by the 
existing system or town water supply, he changed his tune.

Todd G Williams, PE
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On Jul 12, 2023 at 2:33 PM, <Bobby Welch<mailto:bobby.we...@koorsen.com>> wrote:
I am running into a lot of old systems that do not have hydraulic placard and 
some of them are old pipe scheduled system. Has anyone ran into an old pipe 
schedule system were the fire marshal is requesting hydraulic placards and if 
so has anyone found a way to satisfy the requirements without surveying the 
entire system and running new calculations?

Bobby Welch | Sprinkler Systems Designer
KOORSEN FIRE & SECURITY
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