Hi Gyan,

 

Please see my answer in line. Changwang please correct me if something wrong.

 

BR,

Feng

 

发件人: Gyan Mishra <[email protected]> 
发送时间: 2026年7月21日 12:13
收件人: yimi zhang <[email protected]>
抄送: [email protected]; spring <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]
主题: [spring] Re: Call for adoption: draft-yang-spring-sid-as-source-address

 

Dear authors 

I reviewed the draft a=d have some comments on the draft as it relates to a 
draft being adopted i= IDR which may help shed some light on your firewall 
issue.

 

Since the SRv6 tunnel carries all End.DT4 and End.DT6 traffic how =an you 
selectively make the source address one specific service Sid endpoi=t  as that 
service Sid is only reachable for that specific VRF. =So let’s say you had a 
firewall in VRF A and the tunnel source add=ess was set to service Sid in VRF B 
 the ping would fail since you ca=not ping between the VRFs.  

[fyang] The simplest approach is explicit configuration assignment: operators 
can bind a dedicated SID as the source address for a specific VRF, access 
circuit (AC), or IP prefix respectively.

 

The SRv6 tunnel so=rce address  is recommended  by some vendors to use the 
loopback=addressed from Algo 0 main locator block for the source address as 
well fo= operator flexibility can also be addressed by a completely different 
bloc= range.

 

There is an issue that exists with BGP nex= hop resolution that is being 
addressed in IDR WG with adoption call of dr=ft below which has been 
implemented by most vendors when the next hop reso=ution uses the egress PE 
loopback in case where the loopback is addressed =sing a block different then 
the egress PE SRv6 locator block rib datastore=

 

That is exactly the issue with the firewall ICMP issue and this =DR draft below 
addresses that exact issue.

 

Draft-vroonen-idr-b=p-bestpath-nh-selection-02

 

<=iv dir="auto" style="font-size:inherit">The issue is related to BGP best path 
selection using the egress P= next hop loopback for next hop resolution in 
cases where the loopbacks ar= addressed out of a different block then the SRv6 
locator for Algo 0 or an= Flex Algo 128, 129 resulting in sub optimal routing 
where low latency SLA=traffic will flow along a best effort loopback algo 0 
default rib path.

 

The solution in this draf= uses a forwarding address that is set so that the 
next hop resolution use= this address from the SRv6 locator flex algo datastore 
and not the tradit=onal egress PE loopback for the next hop resolution.

 

This solution has already been implemented =y most all vendors and now we are 
just updating BGP next hop resolution RF= 4271 

with this IETF draft.

 

The issue you are having with the firewal= and ICMP ping issue I believe will 
be solved with this draft mentioned ab=ve.

[fyang] I am not sure I got your point. This is how BGP can learn the correct 
nexthop in control protocol. Let’s say there are 2 flow, one for north-->south 
direction, the other for reverse direction. North-->south traffic would be: 
src=loopback(n),dest=sid(s), while reverse direction would be: 
src=loopack(s),dest=sid(n).If there is a firewall in between, the easiest way 
is to make the address be symmetrical. If BGP just specifies a forwarding 
address other than sid, it seems the issue still there.

 

I did want to not= that SRv6 TE steering can work through a firewall using SRv6 
proxy draft =elow.

 

 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xuclad-sprin=-sr-service-chaining> 
https://datatrack=r.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining


<=span>

Also other than use of  SR Proxy feature there i= a way to service chain and 
steer traffic through a firewall which is by c=afting next Sid or replace Sid 
policy to point to egress device locator no=e Sid on other side of firewall and 
to do so i= both directions which is possible.

[fyang] Not sure. The address would still be asymmetric if just change the next 
sid.

 

Another point to note is that as all firewalls today are not =Rv6 aware that by 
not using SRv6 proxy for SRv6 decap and encap the firewa=l in SRv6 path is not 
capable of DPI to parse statefully the inner payload=IPv4 or IPv6 so defeating 
the firewall stateful packet filtering inspectio= capability.

[fyang] Comparing with SRv6 Proxy, I would say that just change the source 
address to SID does not need to strip/restore traffic header. That is much 
easier way.

 

Recommend=tion is keeping firewall outside the SRv6 domain and use BGP routing 
path =ttributes to steer traffic through firewall or use SRv6 Proxy.

[fyang] In enterprise market, it is quite common to put a firewall (without 
service chain) in between. Today most solution is to use optionA like solution 
at the cost of end-to-end srv6 advantages. 

 

Kind Regards 

 

Gyan

 

On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 11:51 PM yimi zhang <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrot=:

Hi WG,

 

I would like to ex=ress my support for the WG adoption of the draft.

<=r>

This draft addresses a issue caused by firewalls=in SRv6 deployments by using 
SID as the source address.

 

Thanks,

Yimi

<=r>

<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 于 2026年7月10潹7周五 
20:53写道:

Dear WG, 

 

This message starts a 3-week WG=adoption call, ending 2026-07-31, for 
draft-yang-spring-sid-as-source-addr=ss-13 [1]


After review of the document, please indicate support (or not) for WG adopt=on 
of the document to the mailing list. 
Please also provide comments/reasons for your support (or lack thereof) as =his 
is a stronger way to indicate your (non) support as this is not a vote= 
If you are willing to work on or review the document, please state this 
exp=icitly. This gives the chairs an indication of the energy level of people 
=n the working group willing to work on the document. 

Thanks! 
Alvaro, Bruno, Joel

 

[1]  
<https://datatrac=er.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yang-spring-sid-as-source-address-13>
 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/=oc/html/draft-yang-spring-sid-as-source-address-13

 

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