Hi Joel,

Thank you for your email.
We might think about two type of cases here.


1.     A segment list use a single PSID(Segment list: PSID is 1:1): this is a 
normal case, can be covered by other text in the draft, no special text is 
needed. All the SR Policy use the same PSID for a specific segment list. Then 
we will get an aggregated statistics on the egress node. That is simple.

2.     A segment list can have multiple different value PSIDs(Segment list: 
PSID is 1:N). This design allows the operators to separate the statistics for 
separate subsets of traffic over a path. This is an object-oriented design, 
each SR policy has its own candidate path, own segment list, own path. Though 
the segment list may be the same with other ones in other SR policies, but a SR 
policy do not care about others, but only see its own segment list identified 
by a path segment. But in any case, we do not force people to do so, this draft 
only provide the capability to use different value of PSID for a segment list.  
In other worlds, each SR policy has its own path with its PSID, and different 
SR policy’s path(with different PSID) might reuse the same segment list. In my 
point of view, it is the PSID.
We might add some text to explain more? You comment or text proposal will be 
very welcome!

Thanks,
Cheng



From: Joel Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 7:18 PM
To: Cheng Li <c...@huawei.com>; LiJie Deng <denglijie1...@gmail.com>; 
spring@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [spring] Re: spring Digest, Vol 129, Issue 43


I can understand why the operator may want separate statistics for separate 
subsets of traffic over a path.  But then the ID being used does not seem to be 
a path ID.  It identifies something, but I am not sure what.  If it identified 
just the path, then all the packets for all applications using the same path 
would be required to have the same ID, which you are explicitly saying is not 
the case.

Yours,

Joel
On 9/5/2024 11:44 AM, Cheng Li wrote:
Hi Lijie,

Yes, it is common for operators to carry multiple services with different 
policies over links.

That text is for the use cases that an operator would like to measure the 
packets for the paths(identified by its segment list) within its Policy. But on 
the egress node, the node will get the aggregated statistics of packets since 
different services may reuse the same segment list/path.

In the cases that operator would like to measure the paths in different 
policies/services, same segment list/path in a specific policy should be 
identified, and differentiated with the same segment list in other policies. By 
using different Path Segment ID, same segment List/path can be differentiated, 
so that the traffic can be measured alone. Otherwise, only the aggregated 
result will be produced on the egress node.

Hope I make it clear. Thank you for your comment. We may need to add some text 
in this section? You are welcome to share your proposal.

Thanks,
Cheng





From: LiJie Deng <denglijie1...@gmail.com><mailto:denglijie1...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2024 11:08 AM
To: spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>
Subject: [spring] Re: spring Digest, Vol 129, Issue 43

Hi Cheng,

  I have a question about the draft.
There is this sentence in the "introduction" section: "Furthermore, different 
SRv6 policies may use the same segment list for different candidate paths, so 
the traffic of different SRv6 policies are merged, resulting in the inability 
to measure the performance of the specific path."
- I don’t see the issue with "merged traffic of different SRv6 policies", and 
how it relates to "the inability to measure the performance of the specific 
path". For operators, it’s very common to carry multiple services with 
different policies over links. In addition, there are many methods to measure 
service performance, such as IOAM.
BR,
Lijie



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