(Speaking technically as an individual, but noting that Alvaro and I are the responsible chairrs who will have to resolve any technical standards incompatibility.  And I have not talked with Alvaro.  So I may be putting my foot in my mouth.)

As I understand it, the current view is that the compressed SID draft permists the case where a single container represents the SR policy.  If that contianer is using uSID, and if the packet is going between two hosts in the SRv6 domain, then the SRH may be omitted and no encapsulation is needed.

In that case, the sending host needs to compute the checksum based on what the receiver will see.  It can do that, and there is text in the draft to do so.  There are however two related issues.  First, that direction for computing the upper layer checksum does not match what RFC 8200 says.  If indeed that is a change to 8200, then that needs to be indicated somehow, and presumably approved by 6man.  related to that, any intermediate node looking at the packet will see an apparently ordinary IPv6 packet whose upper layer checksum is incorrect.

Tom Herbert, if I am understanding him correctly, is arguing that since the shifting of the uSID container is essentially  a DA rewrite, the operation is sufficiently similar to NAT that one should expect the NAT device to correct the checksum (which is a different repair than the current compression draft calls for.)

As far as I can tell, this intradomain, non-SRH, uSID case is intendedd to be supported by the compression solution.  (Another option for the WG would be to declare that out of scope, but I have not seen evidence the WG wants that restriction.)  If so, we need to reach agreement on what we expect of this case, and where it needs to be documented.

Yours,

Joel M. Halpern

PS: Ron has suggested that a HbH optioncould be used to address the inconsistency.  I do not yet understand the desired behavior there.

On 3/25/2024 1:03 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote:
Hi Tom,

I don't think so, but I admit I may not be aware of some interesting use cases ....

Many thx,
R.


On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 5:57 PM Tom Herbert <t...@herbertland.com> wrote:

    On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 9:40 AM Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    > Actually looking at this from the perspective where SRH may be
    omitted I see in the subject draft this clearly stated:
    >
    > A source node steers a packet into an SR Policy. If the SR
    Policy results in a Segment List containing a single segment, and
    there is no need to add information to the SRH flag or add TLV;
    the DA is set to the single Segment List entry, and the SRH MAY be
    omitted.¶
    >
    >
    > That to me indicated that host computed checksum will be correct
    all along the transit nodes. So no issue either here.
    >
    > Could someone illustrate with a drawing of packet's traversing
    the network their assumed header format and forseen issues ?

    Robert,

    Are there any cases in segment routing where the Destination Address
    is changed in flight and a routing header is not present in the
    packet?

    Tom

    >
    > Thx,
    > R,
    >


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