Hi Stewart

I think you are correct based on below.

So the  TI-LFA draft even though it has loop preventing mechanisms that can
 possibly work independently of a separate uLoop avoidance mechanism, that
there are cases as we both pointed out that uLoops can form, in those cases
for further convergence time optimization a separate uLoop prevention
mechanism maybe necessary.

So in that case the current reference to the uLoop avoidance draft could
apply.

However, I do think the uLoop draft needs a lot of work particularly
section 3 and is an I-D.

So I agree we need to remove any references to the uLoop draft and stating
that a separate from TI-LFAs uLoop prevention technology is necessary.  The
uLoop draft as it exists would be the appropriate draft to be referenced
but unfortunately it’s not ready so I don’t think we should reference it.

Thoughts ?

Thanks

Gyan
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 4:27 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bry...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just to pick up something that was agreed but was not included in this
> summary: we agreed to remove the reference to draft-bashandy in order to
> make the discussion on uloop prevention technology neutral.
>
> - Stewart
>
> > On 10 Nov 2023, at 09:04, Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Also sending the email to SPRING WG in case people are interested.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We had a very productive discussion during the side meeting, and the
> review comments and open issues have been addressed.
> >
> > Outcome of the discussion:
> > It’s important for the draft to clarify that with ti-lfa, when IGP
> starts to reconverge, there is still a possibility for micro-loops. So
> customers should be advised to deploy some micro-loop protection mechanisms
> to prevent traffic loss.
> >
> > Action items for authors of the ti-lfa draft:
> > •  To include text from RFC7490 second paragraph of section 10
> > •  To include the text summary in the email thread
> > •  Change the text in section 6.1 from node to link
> >
> > Next steps:
> > After the draft is updated to address the open issues, Gyan Mishra will
> update the OPS Directorate review, and the RTGWG WG Chairs will start the
> WGLC of this draft.
> >
> > If I’m missing something, please let me know or reply to this thread.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Yingzhen
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