+1

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:50 PM Alexander Vainshtein <
alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com> wrote:

> Jie, and all,
>
> IMHO there is no need to allocate dedicated IP addresses to the endpoints
> of the optical path.
>
> You could define them as unnumbered IPv4-capable interfaces borrowing some
> loopback address of he containing node (which in any case exists) or, in an
> IPv6-only scenario, allocate just link-local IPv6 addresses to these
> endpoints. You could then use some existing mechanisms for each endpoint to
> learn the MAC address of the other.
>
>
>
> Once this happens, End.X would work without any changes IMHO.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sasha
>
>
>
> *From:* Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.d...@huawei.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2022 10:46 AM
> *To:* Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>; Alexander Vainshtein <
> alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>
> *Cc:* draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programm...@ietf.org;
> spring@ietf.org; Michael Gorokhovsky <michael.gorokhov...@rbbn.com>;
> Nitsan Dolev <nitsan.do...@rbbn.com>; Rotem Cohen <rotem.co...@rbbn.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: [spring] My question at the mike about
> draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming
>
>
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
>
>
> In the use cases presented during the meeting, no IP address needs to be
> provisioned on the endpoints of the underlay path, thus to my understanding
> they are not IP enabled optical paths.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jie
>
>
>
> *From:* Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2022 10:33 AM
> *To:* Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>
> *Cc:* draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programm...@ietf.org;
> spring@ietf.org; Michael Gorokhovsky <michael.gorokhov...@rbbn.com>;
> Nitsan Dolev <nitsan.do...@rbbn.com>; Rotem Cohen <rotem.co...@rbbn.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [spring] My question at the mike about
> draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming
>
>
>
> Hi Sasha,
>
>
>
> Your point is very valid and I assumed that the optical path is IP enabled
> but there is no routing protocol running over it. There may be a mix up
> between the terms L3 adjacency and IGP adjacency.
>
>
>
> RFC8986 Section 4.2 End.X works for L3 adjacency (with or without routing
> protocol running over the link) as well as L2 bundle members of an L3 LAG
> interface. In all cases, the neighbor resolution and handling for IP
> packets is expected.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ketan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 3:57 PM Alexander Vainshtein <
> alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to repeat the question I have asked at the mike during the
> SPRING WG session today about
> draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15t5Zs5Wh91bPMQ9TR9nW?h=dDfw036YxeQFRNa8ajR8qlqeAI8RvZ3iLZhO8gcfBPI=&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming-04>
> :
>
>
>
> How would the node that has allocated an End.XU SID for a specific
> underlay link (i.e., non-IP) identify the Layer 2 encapsulation that has to
> be pushed on the packet with the End.XU SID exposed?
>
>
>
> The reference to End.X behavior in Section 4.2 of RFC 8986
> <https://clicktime.symantec.com/15t5ehGo9khBoJE4zyYw8?h=mMx_9LBKQMNnIC9R12iF9YbkpOtphR8ALGiAT_goRgc=&u=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8986%23section-4.2>
> looks incorrect to me since End.X explicitly speaks about a L3 X-connect
> and usual Layer 2 helpers ARP and/or ND) would be applicable.
>
> But this is not the case for a path for a non-IP path IMHO.
>
>
>
> I may have missed the details of the response by the presenter, but my gut
> feeling is that my question has not been answered.
>
>
>
> Regards, and thanks n advance for the feedback,
>
> Sasha
>
>
>
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