Zafar,

Tnx - 1 down 36 to go!

Actually a bit more with the NITs output. Can you take a look at the long lines next, it should be easy edits.

The first two long lines are in this paragraph:

248          S01.1. IF SRH.Flags.O-flag is set and local configuration permits
249                 O-flag processing THEN
250                 a. Make a copy of the packet.
251                 b. Send the copied packet, along with a timestamp
252                    to the OAM process.      ;; Ref1
253 Ref1: An implementation SHOULD copy and record the timestamp as soon as 254 possible during packet processing. Timestamp is not carried in the packet
255          forwarded to the next hop.

Line 253 has four characters "n as" outside the allowed 72 characters
Line 254 has the word "packet" outside the allowed 72 characters

This is inside the figure and I think that you can left shift the
enire figure, otherwise I don't see a problem with introducing line
breaks.

In figure 4:

639          > traceroute srv6 B:4:C52 via segment-list B:2:C31

641          Tracing the route to SID function B:4:C52
642           1  2001:DB8:1:2:21 0.512 msec 0.425 msec 0.374 msec
643              SRH: (B:4:C52, B:4:OTP, B:2:C31; SL=2)
644           2  2001:DB8:2:3:31 0.721 msec 0.810 msec 0.795 msec
645              SRH: (B:4:C52, B:4:OTP, B:2:C31; SL=1)
646           3  2001:DB8:3:4::41 0.921 msec 0.816 msec 0.759 msec
647              SRH: (B:4:C52, B:4:OTP, B:2:C31; SL=1)

649 Figure 4 A sample output for hop-by-hop traceroute to a SID function

Line 649 has "tion" of "SID function" (fig numbring) outside the allowed
72 characters, again should be easy to left shif or introduce line
breaks.

The reason I want to address this first is that it is easy, but also
a show stopper.

And last, thugh I hate to add late comments - abbreviations, I have not
gone through the entire document to look for unexpanded abbreviations,
but there is at least one "NPU". Which I read as Network Processing Unit,
what confuses me is that it is not in the RFC Editors abbreviation list
at all. I think there is an action point for the wg chairs to have it
introduced, and for the authros to expand, as well as going through the
document an d make sure that everthing that should be expanded is.

/Loa

On 22/01/2020 13:15, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote:
Hi Loa,

Many thanks for your follow-up.

Based on your feedback, we have updated the version in the GitHub.

Thanks

Regards … Zafar

*From: *Loa Andersson <l...@pi.nu>
*Date: *Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 9:59 PM
*To: *"Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com>, Ole Troan <otr...@employees.org>, 6man WG <i...@ietf.org>, SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
*Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-cha...@ietf.org>
*Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam>

Zafar,

Thanks for addressing this. However one thing remains. The text is now:

"There MAY be additional segments preceding the END.OP/ END.OTP SID."

I don't think there is a need for requirement language in that sentence,

I read it as straightforward English:

"There may be additional segments preceding the END.OP/ END.OTP SID."

Would do very well.

Can you explain the need for requirement language?

/Loa

On 22/01/2020 01:55, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote:

    Hi Brian,

    Many thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.

    The working copy of the new version in the repository addresses your/

    Loa’s comment highlighted in your email.

    https://github.com/ietf-6man/srv6-oam

    Thanks

    Regards … Zafar

    *From: *spring <spring-boun...@ietf.org
    <mailto:spring-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of Brian E Carpenter

    <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com>>

    *Organization: *University of Auckland

    *Date: *Monday, January 20, 2020 at 2:57 PM

    *To: *Loa Andersson <l...@pi.nu <mailto:l...@pi.nu>>, Ole Troan
    <otr...@employees.org <mailto:otr...@employees.org>>, 6man

    WG <i...@ietf.org <mailto:i...@ietf.org>>, SPRING WG
    <spring@ietf.org <mailto:spring@ietf.org>>

    *Cc: *6man Chairs <6man-cha...@ietf.org <mailto:6man-cha...@ietf.org>>

    *Subject: *Re: [spring] 6man w.g. last call for

    <draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam>

    To be clear about one of the points in the review, MAY NOT is not

    allowed by RFC2119 because it is totally ambiguous in English (since it

    can mean either "must not" or "might not"). In any case the phrase "MAY

    or MAY NOT" is not of any normative value. It presumably simply means

    "MAY" in all cases in this draft.

    Regards

          Brian

    On 20-Jan-20 20:54, Loa Andersson wrote:

          WG,

          I have reviewed the entire document.

          First, I'm not an IPv6 expert.

          As far as I can see the sued on

          I have not used github, I had a couple of attempts to learn
    the tools,

          but so far I have failed.

          I have instead done what I use to do, use the review tool with
    Word.

          Since I sometimes have a pushback on the docx-format I save
    the result

          as a .txt-file. Drawback is that all comment show up as
    refrences to a

          list at the end of the document. But you can't get everything.

          /Loa

          PS gives this output for this draft; it is quite a lot and in
    itself are

          so much that it is worth sending it bck to the authors and
    asking them

          to fix it. Was the noits tool checked at all before starting
    the wglc?

          idnits 2.16.02

          /tmp/draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam-03.txt:

               Checking boilerplate required by RFC 5378 and the IETF
    Trust (see

    https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info):

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  No issues found here.

               Checking nits according to

    https://www.ietf.org/id-info/1id-guidelines.txt:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  No issues found here.

               Checking nits according to
    https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

               ** There are 3 instances of too long lines in the
    document, the

          longest one

                  being 6 characters in excess of 72.

               == There are 5 instances of lines with
    non-RFC3849-compliant IPv6

          addresses

                  in the document.  If these are example addresses, they

          should be

          changed.

               Miscellaneous warnings:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

               == The copyright year in the IETF Trust and authors
    Copyright Line

          does not

                  match the current year

               -- The exact meaning of the all-uppercase expression 'MAY
    NOT'

          is not

                  defined in RFC 2119.  If it is intended as a requirements

          expression, it

                  should be rewritten using one of the combinations
    defined in

          RFC 2119;

                  otherwise it should not be all-uppercase.

               == The expression 'MAY NOT', while looking like RFC 2119

          requirements

          text,

                  is not defined in RFC 2119, and should not be
    used.  Consider

          using 'MUST

                  NOT' instead (if that is what you mean).

                  Found 'MAY NOT' in this paragraph:

                  To perform ICMPv6 ping to a target SID an echo request

          message is

                  generated by the initiator with the END.OP or END.OTP
    SID in the

                  segment-list of the SRH immediately preceding the
    target SID.

          There MAY

                  or MAY NOT be additional segments preceding the END.OP/

          END.OTP SID.

               == The expression 'MAY NOT', while looking like RFC 2119

          requirements

          text,

                  is not defined in RFC 2119, and should not be
    used.  Consider

          using 'MUST

                  NOT' instead (if that is what you mean).

                  Found 'MAY NOT' in this paragraph:

                  To traceroute a target SID a probe message is
    generated by the

                  initiator with the END.OP or END.OTP SID in the
    segment-list of

          the SRH

                  immediately preceding the target SID.  There MAY or
    MAY NOT be

          additional

                  segments preceding the END.OP/ END.OTP SID.

               -- The document date (December 18, 2019) is 32 days in the

          past.  Is this

                  intentional?

               Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using
    normative

          references

                  to lower-maturity documents in RFCs)

               == Missing Reference: 'SL' is mentioned on line 190, but not

          defined

               -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '2' on
    line 191

               -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '1' on
    line 191

               -- Looks like a reference, but probably isn't: '0' on
    line 192

               == Missing Reference: 'RFC7011' is mentioned on line 230, but

          not defined

               == Missing Reference: 'I-D.ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext' is

          mentioned on line

                  241, but not defined

               == Missing Reference: 'RFC792' is mentioned on line 701, but

          not defined

               == Missing Reference: 'RFC 8403' is mentioned on line
    660, but not

          defined

               == Unused Reference: 'RFC0792' is defined on line 823, but no

          explicit

                  reference was found in the text

               == Unused Reference: 'RFC8403' is defined on line 843, but no

          explicit

                  reference was found in the text

               == Outdated reference: A later version (-08) exists of

                  draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-06

                  Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 12 warnings (==), 5

          comments

          (--).

                  Run idnits with the --verbose option for more detailed

          information

          about

                  the items above.

          On 05/12/2019 04:53, Ole Troan wrote:

              Hello,

                   As agreed in the working group session in Singapore, this

              message starts a new two week 6MAN Working Group Last Call on

              advancing:

                   Title    : Operations, Administration, and Maintenance

              (OAM) in Segment Routing Networks with IPv6 Data plane (SRv6)

                   Author   : Z. Ali, C. Filsfils, S. Matsushima, D.
    Voyer, M.

              Chen

                   Filename : draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam-02

                   Pages    : 23

                   Date     : 2019-11-20

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam/

              as a Proposed Standard.

              Substantive comments and statements of support for publishing

              this document should be directed to the mailing list.

              Editorial suggestions can be sent to the author. This last
    call

              will end on the 18th of December 2019.

              To improve document quality and ensure that bugs are caught as

              early as possible, we would require at least

              two reviewers to do a complete review of the document.  Please

              let the chairs know if you are willing to be a reviewer.

              The last call will be forwarded to the spring working group,

              with discussion directed to the ipv6 list.

              Thanks,

              Bob & Ole, 6man co-chairs

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