On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 10:39, Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Fernando,
>
> Allow me to make something very clear here.
>
>> And, since we are at it, please let me know if IPv6 is and end to end
>> protocol. And, if it is, how does that e2e-ness work with inserting and
>> removing EHs on the path to the ultimate destination of a packet.
>
>
> The dream of IPv6 flat end to endless is long gone if it ever was even real.

I would have to question your understanding of the term "end to end"
if you're make such an assertion.


>
> There is no end to end IPv6 or for that matter IPv4 delivery today across any 
> network. Regardless if this is private or public network of any reasonable 
> size and service portfolio.

I don't think you understand what end-to-end means with those assertions.

NAT breaks end-to-end.

If your assertion was true about IPv6, then you are asserting that
literally every IPv6 packet is going through NAT66 at some point.
That's certainly not happening.




>
> Some form of encapsulation or tunneling is used in enterprises, in ISPs, in 
> SPs or even in largest public clouds.
>
> So if you think that you can send an IPv6 packet and that this packet will be 
> delivered to its final destination without any encapsulation on the way - 
> this is just unreal. And the sooner you and others like you realize this the 
> better for everyone.
>
> Think about L3VPNs reachability segmentation, think about SFC/NSH, think 
> about L2 transport emulation of your circuits, think about seamless mobility, 
> LISP  ...
>
> Just a tiny reality check,
>
> Thx,
> R.
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