Zafar

I don’t think you can assert that fails to comply with the SR arch. There is 
nothing they are doing that cannot be captured in Netflix/IPFIX and SR needs to 
work with IPFIX.

Stewart



> On 16 Nov 2017, at 2:23 am, Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> This draft breaks the SR architecture. I am quoting a snippet from abstract 
> of SR Architecture document 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-13, which 
> states:
> “SR allows to enforce a flow through any topological path while maintaining 
> per-flow state only at the ingress nodes to the SR domain.”
>  
> In addition to creating states at transit and egress nodes, the procedure 
> also affects the data plane and makes it unscalable. It also makes controller 
> job much harder and error prune. In summary, I find the procedure very 
> complex and unscalable.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Regards … Zafar
>  
>  
> From: spring <spring-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Greg Mirsky 
> <gregimir...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 11:10 AM
> To: "draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org" 
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> Subject: [spring] Special purpose labels in 
> draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths
>  
> Hi Shraddha,
> thank you for very well written and thought through draft. I have these 
> questions I'd like to discuss:
> Have you thought of using not one special purpose label for both SR Path 
> Identifier and SR Path Identifier+Source SID cases but request two special 
> purpose labels, one for each case. Then the SR Path Identifier would not have 
> to lose the bit for C flag.
> And how you envision to collect the counters along the path? Of course, a 
> Controller may query LSR for all counters or counters for the particular flow 
> (SR Path Identifier+Source SID). But in addition I'd propose to use in-band 
> mechanism, perhaps another special purpose label, to trigger the LSR to send 
> counters of the same flow with the timestamp out-band to the predefined 
> Collector.
> And the last, have you considered ability to flush counters per flow. In 
> Scalability Considerations you've stated that counters are maintained as long 
> as collection of statistics is enabled. If that is on the node scope, you may 
> have to turn off/on the collection to flush off some old counters. I think 
> that finer granularity, per flow granularity would be useful for operators. 
> Again, perhaps the flow itself may be used to signal the end of the 
> measurement and trigger release of counters.
> Regards,
> Greg
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