On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 11:37 +0200, Alon Levy wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 02:42:55PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 20:21 +0200, Alon Levy wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 02:01:48PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 10:10 +0300, Yaniv Kaul wrote: > > > > > On 06/30/2011 05:33 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 20:22 -0400, Andrew Cathrow wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >>> <snip> > > > > > >>> Hello, all. I've been using both RDP via TSPlus and SPICE for > > > > > >>> over a > > > > > >>> week now and the practical world results at least in my mode of > > > > > >>> operation are becoming clear. SPICE does handle major screen > > > > > >>> refreshes > > > > > >>> better, e.g., monstrous graphics or continuously pasting a full > > > > > >>> line > > > > > >>> of > > > > > >>> text in a full screen notepad. Of course, SPICE is a clear winner > > > > > >>> when > > > > > >>> it comes to video though still not practically usable on low > > > > > >>> bandwidth > > > > > >>> links. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> However, RDP is trouncing SPICE in the more common day to day > > > > > >>> tasks > > > > > >>> involving small screen updates. For example, every time I open or > > > > > >>> switch > > > > > >>> my screen to LibreOffice, the tool bar icons seems to pain one at > > > > > >>> a > > > > > >>> time > > > > > >>> in SPICE where as they appear all at once in TSPlus. Document > > > > > >>> scrolling > > > > > >>> is more immediate and smoother. Surprisingly, when I open the > > > > > >>> PuTTY > > > > > >>> dialog in SPICE, it paints in sections whereas TSPlus appears all > > > > > >>> at > > > > > >>> once. > > > > > >> You'll really need to post some real details here - from versions > > > > > >> of qemu+spice server that you're using along with the qemu command > > > > > >> line syntax, host OS, hardware details through to what's running > > > > > >> in the guest, driver versions, etc. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I've never seen RDP trounce spice, but if it does, then we need > > > > > >> some scientific information on the environment so we can diagnose > > > > > >> and assist. > > > > > >> > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Very happy to do so as we really do want SPICE to become our > > > > > > protocol of > > > > > > choice. I believe I've posted up our details before but will do so > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > Would you be so kind as to capture the Spice traffic (using > > > > > tcpdump/wireshark) and send it over? > > > > > Specifically: > > > > > 1. Please capture from start - before the Spice client connects to > > > > > the > > > > > server. > > > > > 2. Ensure you catch full sized packets (-s XXXX - could be 1500 most > > > > > likely, when using tcpdump) > > > > > 3. Save into file (-w /tmp/file.pcap when using tcpdump) > > > > > 4. Please compress and send / let me know where I can pick it up from. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest you have only the scenario of connecting to the VM and > > > > > opening > > > > > putty, which you complain is slow. > > > > > Hopefully it'll give us some clue. > > > > > TIA, > > > > > Y. > > > > <snip> > > > > Certainly. On their way in a couple of moments. If anyone else would > > > > like a copy, please let me know off list. > > > > > > > > I took three traces. The first was our regular SPICE connection. Then > > > > I took a trace performing the same activities using xfreerdp and TSPlus. > > > > > > Is the vm a windows or linux one? > > Sorry - the VM is Windows Server 2008, client is Debian Squeeze, host is > > Fedora 15 - John > > So regarding TSPlus and xfreerdp - iiuc if the vm is windows then you are > using TSPlus > here, not xfreerdp? > <snip> No, xfreerdp is providing the client on my Debian Squeeze netbook. TSPlus is providing the RDS on the Windows 2008 Server instead of using Microsoft's RDS. Thanks - John
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