Michael Jacob wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> something seems to be wrong with my bayes db, or is this considered
> 'normal'? Log:

I backed up my Bayes db, and ran with -D force-expire to see what it'd
do.  I got pretty much what you show, except after the "something fishy"
line, it paused for a moment or two, and then finished up with:

debug: bayes: couldn't find a good delta atime, need more token
difference, skipping expire.
debug: Syncing complete.
debug: bayes: 90800 untie-ing
debug: bayes: 90800 untie-ing db_toks
debug: bayes: 90800 untie-ing db_seen
debug: bayes: files locked, now unlocking lock
debug: unlock: 90800 unlink /usr/home/bhoover/.spamassassin/bayes.lock

So that's the way it's supposed to go.  Did your run ever return?

I saw a related thread in SA dev that might be helpful.  It regards a
"problem" along the same lines, though not precisely -- your run never
returned -- that may (along with application of the associated patch)
give some insight.  The linked patch adds more debug output:

news://news.gmane.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Copy the patch to a file, say, bayesstore-patch-file.patch, in your
../Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin directory, and run:

patch < bayesstore-patch-file.patch

You'll get more debug output when you run force-expire again.

Most notable, with regards to the "problem", is the play between how big
a set of tokens you want to expire -- given current number of tokens in
db, and bayes_expiry_max_db_size -- and whether sa-learn can find a
suitable atime for expiration selection.  The additional debug output
helps to clarify this, but see the link (and sub-links there) for
explaination.  This may not be your problem, but the added output may be
helpful.

> synced Bayes databases from journal in 0 seconds: 457 unique entries
> (562 total entries)
> debug: bayes: expiry check keep size, 75% of max: 112500
> debug: bayes: token count: 196598, final goal reduction size: 84098

So I read the above output to mean sa-learn wants to expire 84098
tokens, bringing the size down to 112500 from 196598.  I assume then
that's what it'll look for -- an atime that'll allow for that.  My
understanding is if sa-learn can not find an atime allowing for less
than or equal to the target number of token expirations, expiration will
not be carried out.

> debug: bayes: First pass?  Current: 1073772599, Last: 1073562102,
> atime: 22118400, count: 2972, newdelta: 781658, ratio: 28.2967698519515
> debug: bayes: something fishy, calculating atime (first pass)

The expiration routine did not like what it saw in the above, so it went
on to calculate/find a new atime with which to select tokens to expire,
and apparently, never returned...  It's this part to which the patch
adds more debug output.

> and after that nothing, for
> 
>   PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME
> COMMAND
> 11464 root      14   0 15092  14M  1600 R       0 94.6  5.7  30:25
> sa-learn
> 
> and running.

Is bayes.lock in .spamassassin?  I assume you've killed the process by
now, but you'll need to get rid of that lock file if it got left
behind.  It's used when autolearning too, btw.

Bryan

> SpamAssassin is 2.61, Perl is:
> 
> Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 1)
> configuration:
>   Platform:
>     osname=linux, osvers=XXX, archname=i686-linux
>     uname='linux sps-c1s9p14.j-e-b.net XXX XXX i686 unknown '
>     config_args=''
>     hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
>     usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef
> usemultiplicity=undef
>     useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
>     use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
>   Compiler:
>     cc='cc', ccflags ='-fno-strict-aliasing -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64',
>     optimize='-O2',
>     cppflags='-fno-strict-aliasing'
>     ccversion='', gccversion='2.95.3 19991030 (prerelease)',
> gccosandvers=''
>     intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
>     d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
>     ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
> lseeksize=8
>     alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
>   Linker and Libraries:
>     ld='cc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib'
>     libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib
>     libs=-lnsl -lndbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil
>     perllibs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil
>     libc=/lib/libc-2.1.1.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
>   Dynamic Linking:
>     dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef,
> ccdlflags='-rdynamic'
>     cccdlflags='-fpic', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib'
> 
> Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
>   Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES
>   Built under linux
>   Compiled at Jan  8 2002 10:55:38
>   @INC:
>     /opt/perl/lib/5.6.1/i686-linux
>     /opt/perl/lib/5.6.1
>     /opt/perl/lib/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux
>     /opt/perl/lib/site_perl/5.6.1
>     /opt/perl/lib/site_perl
>     .
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