[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/03/2004 11:52:41 AM:

Who wrote that?  I think you need to double check your quoting
machinery!

> >   Subject: Bug 08378 was submitted by Bob Proulx
> >   Subject: Bob is out Friday/Monday
> >   Subject: TWiki - Registration for BobProulx
> >   Subject: Bob's Task List -- December 2003
> 
> Maybe it is just a case of bad examples, but most of these, as well as all
> the ones below are internal email, not email from the Internet, and so
> should never be scanned.

The Twiki one came from the Internet.  Go register with a twiki wiki
somewhere and see for yourself.

> Especially for the second examples I believe that subjects that use
> your username rather than actual name are almost guaranteed to be
> spam if they come from the Internet.

You assume it is somehow easy to tell if the message came from the
Internet or from the company intranet.  That is easy to think that it
is easy.  But with the current spamassassin-2.61 I don't know of any
way to make that determination automatically.  With 'trusted_networks'
it is certainly possible, however.  But corporate mail topography can
be obtuse at times too.  Remember you can't use logic to understand
it, although archeology is useful.

But wait, you said make that determination even before getting into
SA, such as in procmail or whatever.  That is actually even more
difficult since it takes quite a bit of detective work.  I could run
it through a perl script to parse the headers and try to make that
determination.  But that sounds like a rebuild of SA.

> >   Subject: Bug 08378 was submitted by rwp
> >   Subject: autorpm xpm error on cvl-sbcm (rwp doesn't exist)
> >   Subject: ACTION REQUIRED: Time to Change Your Domain Account Password 
> > (COL-SPRINGS\RWP)
> >   Subject: PCO file: endofmsg_term_fix by: rwp

I have it easier there, true, since my login name is different and
unlikely to be seen by legit mail.  But for those of us who chose
poorly and our login and real names are subsets of the other do have
issues.

Typically if spam has these types of subjects they also have other
spam signs in the body of the message.  So far tagging these
accurately has not been a problem for SA.  I only posted these
examples because I had them handy.  And for these real examples
quickly found there are undoubtedly many other real examples out in
the wild.

Bob

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