Hi everybody:

I *think* I want to whitelist an address, but stop SA from autolearning the
whitelisted mail as ham.

Before I get started explaing why, i realize this topic has been discussed
here. This thread is enlightening:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general/29088

Here's a short take of the thread: Simon argues that this is probably not a
feature we need ("a solution to a problem that doesn't exist," i think Simon
says). Carlo counters that mail from the sa-talk list is a great example of
mail that requires just such a feature. For example, Carl argues, much of
the mail on sa-talk contains snippets of spam email, therefore making it an
excellent candidate for a whitelist (because it may be classified as spam by
the filter); while at the same time, one would not want the "spammy" tokens
from sa-talk emails added to one's ham database, thereby poisoning the ham. 

Simon argues back that one doesn't need to whitelist mail from the sa-talk
list anyway, because spamassassin won't classify sa-talk mail as spam
anyway. He asks (i paraphrase), "is anybody having a problem with this?"

..Well, I wasn't, until today. Three messages from sa-talk were classified
as spam by my SpamAssassin 2.60 installation today, specifically messages
from the "Mailing lists and compliance verbage"  thread. (scoring from SA
attached below).

So, when I saw this, I said, "well, I should whitelist-to the sa-talk list
address," which I did, but then I quickly saw all subsequent mail was
getting marked as autolearn-ham, which I quickly realized would be a bad thing.

So I guess, confidential to Simon: yeah, I appear to be having a problem
with this (admittedly minor--I've been on the list for a while and this is
the first time this has happened to my knowledge). It appears the feature
Carlo talks about here makes sense. In fact, I'd argue one very rarely would
want whitelist mail marked as autolearn-ham. I mean, since the thing is
whitelisted anyway, we don't really need to tell bayes about it, right? Or
maybe so...maybe someone can enlighten me here. Either way, I agree with
Carlo on this one: it'd be nice to be able to both whitelist an address but
to stop the filter from autolearning from that mail.

Regards;

DaC

(Attached SA scoring--this is for the message from Fred at email "tech2 at
i-is dot com", subject "Mailing lists and compliance verbage", sent "Fri, 19
Dec 2003 14:29:39 -0500")
Content analysis details:   (6.7 points, 6.0 required)

 pts rule name              description
---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
 2.7 SENT_IN_COMPLIANCE     BODY: Claims compliance with spam regulations
 1.7 NO_COST                BODY: No such thing as a free lunch (3)
 2.6 OPT_IN_CAPS            BODY: Talks about opting in (capitalized version)
 2.7 BILL_1618              BODY: Claims compliance with Senate Bill 1618
 1.8 CANNOT_BE_SPAM         BODY: Claims "cannot be considered spam"
-4.9 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
                            [score: 0.0000]
 0.1 CLICK_BELOW            Asks you to click below



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