> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Santerre
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:54 AM
> To: 'Gary Funck'; Spamassassin List
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spam: Behind the scenes
>
>
> *snip*
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:34 p.m.
> > To: Robert J. Aitken
> > Cc: Justin Champion
> > Subject: Re: More complaints from false headings
> >
> > We send out 10 million plus emails a day and you on average send me 2
> > complaints or less in a day. Today 3 complaints. I think 1
> > complaint per 3
> > million is real good.
>

There's a good report on the economics of spam,
http://www.telusinternational.com/Download/spam.pdf
which makes the point that it costs the spammers next to nothing to send
spam, but costs ISP's and user's billions to deal with it. They also
point out that the spammers can make money with a response rate as low as
as one in a million. If you try and swim through a few of the pages
in the 600 page filing,
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2003/dec/syn2.pdf
you can get a good idea of just how much money the spammers were raking in,
and how serious they were about keeping that revenue stream going. The other
thing that the e-mail exchanges between the spam operators implies is that
some ISP's are complicit in this.

> Tough to complain to a spoofed address now isn't it! How many are blocked?

Given the amount of spam that now seems to be flooding through compromised
PC's on dialup/dsl, I think it would help if the ISP's established and
followed some guidelines, where they self-police their own customers,
looking for open relays, and direct smtp connections that emanate from
their customers' machines. Either that, or they could just refuse to
route those connections if they have that ability. A bit invasive, but
it might put a big dent in the capability of spammers to bypass the other
checks that are already in place.




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