Sound advice.  Thanks for the reply and input - both are greatly
appreciated!

And thanks again to Ryan More and Matt Kettler.

--Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giles Coochey
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 6:55 AM
> To: Larry Gilson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Bayes spam-ham or ham-spam ratios
> 
> 
> Your bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam should be a LOT lower
> than 6.
> 
> If you've actually been learning emails which score 5.9 as 
> non-spam then you've most likely poisoned your bayes 
> database, especially with 2.55 as many spams are now being 
> proliferated to deliberately score less than 5 with SA2.55 - 
> you should probably clear out your current db and re-run 
> sa-learn on your spam/ham corpus.
> 
> Additionally bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam is set rather 
> low (at 8) - you might learn non-spam as ham, giving you 
> further glitches.
> 
> The defaults (0.01 for nonspam and 12 for spam) are not 
> arbitrary values, but values that have been found to 
> generally work well in many different areas, I wouldn't 
> bother trying to tweak them unless you find you have a problem.
> 
> Remember: If it's not broken, don't fix it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Gilson
> Sent: 28 October 2003 20:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes spam-ham or ham-spam ratios
> 
> 
> I am using 2.55.  If the answer is different for 2.60, please 
> answer with respect to 2.60 as I will be upgrading *very* soon.
> 
> I am experimenting with Bayes in a site-wide/gateway 
> configuration.  One thing that I believe is affecting my 
> tests is the external Procmail whitelist.  I find the number 
> of spams learned to the number of hams learned extremely large.
> 
> What is the ratio of ham:spam or spam:ham (2:1, 3:1) that 
> Bayes becomes inneffective?  Does either ratio make a 
> difference?  I am thinking in terms of numbers of messages 
> learned.  Should I be thinking differently?
> 
> Also, my local.cf has the following
> 
>   bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 6
>   bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam    8
> 
> Is this appropriate or did I misinterpret the 
> Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf doc incorrectly.
> 
> Thanks,
> Larry
 



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