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Hello Chris,

Friday, June 6, 2003, 10:03:20 AM, you wrote:

CB> The isp I use for my private email address has recently started using
CB> SA.  It seems to work 'ok', but it seems to still generate:
CB>   * far too many false negatives
CB>   * occational false positives

CB> I am more concerned about the false positives.  Looking at the
headers
CB> of those messages that are legit, it seems that the biggest score
comes
CB> from the BAYES test.

I wouldn't be surprised that these are coming from the email of other
customers of the ISP.

CB> Is there a place that talks about how that score is derived?  It
seems
CB> that when I have a friend that uses HTML formatting (or heaven
forbid,
CB> Incredimail) they have a MUCH higher chance of being tagged as a
CB> spammer.

Check with your ISP -- do you have access to your
$HOME/.spamassassin/user_prefs file? If your ISP also provides you with a
minimal web space, chances are the answer is yes, and you can FTP files
to that area.  They should be able to help you verify this.

What scores are your FPs getting? The default "this is spam" threshold
for SA is 5.0, and the docs strongly recommend increasing it.  I've
updated my user_prefs file to read
> required_hits   9
and I've had only two false positives since that time.

Where are the false positives coming from? My father is also an
Incredimail user, but I'm able to add
> whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and so his email comes through AOK.  I've also whitelisted those
organizations with newsletters which I and my wife intentionally
subscribe to.

Finally, I play around a lot with the various rule scores. I've collected
almost 3,000 spam in my personal spam folder, and have about 5,000 ham in
scattered email folders, all available for search within my email client.
I'm therefore able to see which rules tend to kick ham into spam
territory, and I lower the score for those rules. I also see which rules
tend to kick spam into ham territory and raise those rules.

Some, like NIGERIAN_BODY I've bumped up to 6.1.

I'm now catching well over 99.5% spam, and haven't had a false positive
in weeks.

Once you've done some minor enhancements to user_prefs, you might look
into whether you can run sa-learn yourself. Can you telnet to your ISP
and issue commands on their system?  If so, you can take your false
positives, FTP them as is to your ISP, and run sa-learn against them,
telling bayes to reclassify these emails as ham.

I also take the spam which didn't hit 9.0, and even spam between 9 and 10
with a low bayes rating, and relearn that as spam.

I have what I consider to be fairly minimal access to SA, and yet I've
been able to do a lot to improve SA's performance for me.

Bob Menschel

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